Alex noted that there's been a 'back and forth' between liberal and conservative factions within the denomination going back many decades. What he's noted is that these social justice/progressive forces don't come in waving a Marxist banner or a rainbow flag. Instead, he believes there are a lot of people within the SBC that would love to move the denomination in a more progressive direction. He cited those within the SBC who have the idea that maybe God has created people LGBT and that's a fundamental part of their identity, so they feel the idea of an LGBT Christian needs to be grappled with. These individuals may feel that homosexual acts are still sinful and those who fit the LGBT profile need to be celibate, but once you begin allowing such ideas into the church, that becomes problematic.