Dr. Dakotah Tyler and Justin Shaifer sit down with Toby from Epic Spaceman, the YouTube creator known for using cinematic animations to make the scale of the universe easier to understand.

They talk about cosmic scale, visual storytelling, interstellar travel, whether future humans would still be human, what telescopes actually see when we look at stars, Betelgeuse going supernova, why UFOs are probably not alien spacecraft, and where microbial life might exist in our own solar system.

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