In this special episode of Two Gomers Run For Their Lives, we present a (sometimes uncomfortable) conversation about race, identity, and growth with our lifelong friend, accomplished attorney, and city counsel member Chad Kemp (yes, that’s THE Chad).

Hear the final half-hour of our chat, where Chad tells us about his History of Black Film class, on the Two Gomers Bonus Disc (www.patreon.com/twogomers). Happy Listening, and we’ll be back to Lose 20 in 2020 next week!