Welcome to episode 137 of Off The Beat & Track Podcast with me Stu Whiffen.

This episodes special guest is Abe Cunningham of Deftones

I met with Abe remotely during the lockdown and we had a wonderful chat, talking about growing up, school, creativity, clubbing, gigs and so much more.

We went in on the impact of early 80s pop at school discussing Howard Jones and Prince aswell as chatting about The Who, gigs and the amazing new Deftones record

This really is a great chat with top fella..enjoy x

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