Sometimes, the most gripping tales are not those of fiction. They're not from a bookshelf or a TV screen. They're real-life stories that unfold around us. Stories that remind us of the power of the human spirit. Today on Chatter That Matters, we share the indomitable spirit of Stacey Curtis, who survived a plane crash, cancer that roared through her body and where she was given only a few years to live.

I wish I could bottle Stacey's outlook on life and her positivity. Here are two quotes from the show.

The first was about the plane crash and what it was like to be one of the survivors, alongside her partner Marissa and her dog Emma.

"In that moment, everything changed, yet we found the strength we never knew we had,"

The second quote after discussing losing her brother and dealing with horrific cancer.

"Despite everything, I've found reasons to laugh and live fully every single day,"

To add important context to why some refuse to surrender, I invited Amy Deacon, the founder and CEO of Toronto Wellness Counselling, to return to the show. I also ask her about those who have near death experiences, change their approach, even appreciation for life.