This week on the podcast, Hallie reveals why she can’t stop crying. The mom of two was most recently brought to tears while binge-watching Netflix’s Love Is Blind and again after she and her husband had to cut down a tree in their backyard. Hallie also reflects on her first-ever experience taking professional photos with her extended family—something she lovingly refers to as a “clusterfuck.” After getting together with a group of her friends last week, she even has a homework assignment for all the mamas tuning in.

Meanwhile, Katie is riding the struggle bus after her youngest daughter, Emma, decided she’s officially done with the two-nap life. Katie, who’s been trying her best to keep her girls on a synced-up schedule, is having to let go of the reins a bit (at her husband’s request). But that’s not the only battle she’s facing. Katie also has a bone to pick with technology after getting a new iPhone—and a conversation about passwords with her husband left her jaw on the floor!

Hallie and Katie weigh in on the topic of being a stay-at-home mom and the loss of financial autonomy after one mom, Jessie, went viral for her post describing the uneasy shift from being a “boss mom” and earning her own income to making none in order to stay home with her kids. Jessie, who ran her own business and maintained financial independence, realized that balancing everything left her drained. Eventually, she chose to close her business and restructure their finances so both partners’ efforts—paid and unpaid—supported the family together. But she admitted that even small purchases can become emotionally loaded and her story resonated deeply with parents who recognized the same tension. Now Hallie and Katie are giving their two cents.

The besties also applaud Cardi B, who recently chatted with Jay Shetty on his On Purpose podcast and explained just how deeply prenatal depression affected her during pregnancy after her marriage to Offset fell apart. Cardi described what so many mothers experience quietly: a deep sense of isolation and uncertainty about the future. She admitted that thoughts of raising her baby alone and losing her partner’s companionship left her feeling a deep sadness. Now, Hallie and Katie want to give the Grammy winner her flowers for being so open—helping others feel seen and reminding the world that expecting mothers deserve compassion and support.

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