On the heels of our conversation with Slate's Leon Neyfakh about his book The Next Next Level, The Gist talks with the book's subject, the rap artist Juiceboxxx. Today Juice tells his own story, and explains what it's like to have your life story told in a book. Here's our Spotify starter kit for becoming a Juiceboxxx fan. For the Spiel, Mike's writes a speech for Martin O'Malley. Join Slate Plus! Members get bonus segments, exclusive member-only podcasts, and more. Sign up for a free trial today at slate.com/gistplus.

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