Steve Rother joins Trish and Rob for a deeply personal, mind-bending conversation about why we incarnate, how “the Group” first came through, and what it really means to be a spirit pretending to be human.

Steve Rother is a pioneering spiritual teacher, channel, and author known for his work with non-physical beings he calls “the Group.” A former general contractor who “went kicking and screaming” into metaphysics, Steve has spent the last three decades teaching worldwide, including five live channels at the United Nations in Vienna and New York. He and his wife traveled the globe for 15 years offering workshops, private sessions, and trainings that help people access their own intuitive and channeling abilities. His latest book, Spiritual Psychology: The Twelve Primary Life Lessons, explores how to understand everyday challenges from a spiritual perspective.

In this episode, Steve shares the powerful New Year’s Eve beach ceremony that cracked him open to the Group and instantly redirected his life from construction projects to global spiritual work. He explains how his channeling began in old-school internet chat rooms, evolved into books translated into multiple languages, and eventually took him to the UN, where delegates asked questions about everything from Kosovo to planetary evolution.

The conversation ranges from soul contracts and past lives to multidimensional realities, the rising feminine, and why we are “spiritual beings trying to cope with being human” rather than humans looking for a spiritual experience. Steve unpacks the Group’s teachings on why we choose our parents, lovers, and even our most painful experiences, and how trauma can be reframed so it loses its grip and becomes a source of power.

Trish, Rob, and Steve dive into simultaneous lifetimes, the multiverse, and what the Mandela Effect might reveal about thinning walls between dimensions. They also explore extraterrestrials as “extra-dimensional” beings (EDs), nuclear interference by advanced civilizations, and the idea that some ET races function as humanity’s parental line. The discussion then turns to AI, anti-gravity tech, quantum and ternary computing, and why Steve believes we are on the verge of a massive technological and spiritual leap.