I get shown a lot of tool demos and one thing is clear…

Canvas-based UX will play a pivotal role in how we interface with AI.

It’s a big reason why Figma just bought Weavy 👀

So I interviewed Steve Ruiz who is the founder of tldraw where he's spent over 3 years and $5 million dollars building the perfect canvas (which powers many of the startups that we've studied on this show).

Some highlights:

• Why he’s been obsessing over fairies
• Steve’s principles for good tool design
• How he was able to learn to code so quickly
• What Steve’s learned through his AI experiments
• How he’s thinking about the future of agentic design
• a lot more