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Bianca Springer was born and raised in The Bahamas, now lives in Pearland, Texas, with her husband and two children. She learned to sew as a child, but says motherhood cultivated her passion for the craft. Representation matters and Bianca always tries to honor that through her writings. Recently she wrote REPRESENT! an embroidery book that looks like you! It celebrates diversity with more than 50 embroidery motifs of people in a wide array of skin colors, body shapes, and natural hairstyles. No need for painstaking design alterations—you can simply jump right in and start stitching. These inclusive embroidery projects represent every kind of beauty; see yourself and your loved ones in these designs. Expand your embroidery and sewing skills while increasing your appreciation of others! Celebrate beautiful YOU!

Lisa Woolfork is an associate professor of English,  specializing in African American literature and culture. Her teaching and research explore Black women writers, Black identity, trauma theory and American slavery. She is the convener and founder of Black Women Stitch, the sewing group where Black lives matter. She is also the host/producer of Stitch Please, a weekly audio podcast that centers Black women, girls, and femmes in sewing. In the summer of 2017, she actively resisted the white supremacist marches in her community, Charlottesville Virginia. The city became a symbol of lethal resurging white supremacist violence. #Charlottesville. She remains active in a variety of university and community initiatives, including the Community Engaged Scholars program. She believes in the power of creative liberation.

Insights from this Episode

• What does the word “represent” means to Bianca
• Why does Bianca feel a strong urge to represent the black community in an unapologetic way
• Bianca’s trajectory writing down her designs and patterns on blogs and  magazines
• How was Bianca’s process to write her book
• How Bianca’s character has been put to test in the industry
• Bianca’s thoughts on community building
• Bianca’s  “Represent!” book and its frames
• What would Bianca say to a person that is looking to “get their stitch together”

Quotes from the Show: 

• "[About  the meaning of represent] It means authentically showing off as your true self or allowing people into your space so they can do that as well" - Bianca Springer in “Stitch Please”
• "This is me stepping into a space, I am not whispering, I am not easing in, I am not trying to stand back and wait for you to acknowledge me, I feel like in my craft life and in the craft spaces I have been in as an introvert, I had been happy to do that" - Bianca Springer in “Stitch Please”
• "We are the ones we have been waiting for" - Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• "As someone who is trying to encourage others into craft, I want people to understand perfection is not the goal so if your work is less than perfect framing it elevates it. I’m highlighting the imperfection" - Bianca Springer in “Stitch Please”
• "I say this book [Represent!] is for everyone, not about everyone" - Bianca Springer in “Stitch Please”
• "Try something different and ask themselves two questions beyond their resistance, whatever thing is stopping you from advancing, ask yourself why and then why not and once you begin to explore that, you’re gonna get some stitches together" - Bianca Springer in “Stitch Please”

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Website: https://thanksimadethem.com

Blog: https://thanksimadethem.blogspot.com/

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Book: Represent! Embroidery - C&T Publishing

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Tracy Perry is a self-taught artist with 30+ years of experience in sewing and art to create unique dolls using fabric or clay. She's been creating and selling dolls since 2008. Tracy was the owner and operator of ImaginePerryDolls and TerranDollmaker.  Tracy endeavors to make dolls that show the many colors and uniqueness. She strongly believes that everyone should have access to a doll that looks like them or inspires them. Her dolls have appeared in an issue of Art Dolls Quarterly.  And she has a sincere fan base that includes Virginia-based doll clubs, and collectors from around the United States.

Host: Lisa Woolfork is an associate professor of African American Literature and Culture. Her teaching and research explore Black women writers, the fiction of Black identity, trauma theory, and American slavery. She is the convener and founder of Black Women Stitch, the sewing group where Black Lives Matter. She is also the host/producer of Stitch Please, a weekly audio podcast that centers on Black women, girls, and femmes in sewing. In the summer of 2017, she became a founding member of Black Lives Matter Charlottesville. Actually, she is active in a variety of university and community initiatives, including the College Fellows Program to reshape the undergraduate general education curriculum.

Insights from this episode:

• How Tracy got started in doll making
• Insights into the different types of dolls
• Differences between soft sculpture and cloth dolls
• Tracy’s button-jointed doll experience and the lessons she learned
• Tracy’s favorite tools in doll making
• Tracy’s process in doll making and choosing the personality, shape, outfit, and character

Quotes from the show:

• “Plushies can be a novelty, they can represent lots of different things: they can be abstract, they can be representational” -Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “Don’t overcommit if you are a solopreneur” -Tracy Perry in “Stitch Please”
• “You love dolls, you love doll making, and that love was very much tested and it stood its test but you also got to learn lessons about boundaries, about protecting the peace of your creative life” -Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “My number one tool is my hemostat” -Tracy Perry in “Stitch Please”
• “If you have something that is working for you, don’t change” -Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “One of the things I love about your dolls is how they look like you” -Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “I just try to do what I like, I was just bending myself backward trynna say ‘people don’t like this, people don’t like that,’ then I would find out that people did like it” -Tracy Perry in “Stitch Please”
• “I think too often when women, especially Black women, wanna do something that’s self-directive, self-determined, self-reflective, it’s seen as selfish, which is absolutely false” -Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “The work that comes from your hands should reflect the deepest essence of who you are, as well as from the inside and outside” -Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”

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Tracy Perry

Website: Seams Like Tracy

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YouTube: Seams Like Tracy

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Host: Lisa Woolfork is an associate professor of African American Literature and Culture. Her teaching and research explore Black women writers, the fiction of Black identity, trauma theory, and American slavery. She is the convener and founder of Black Women Stitch, the sewing group where Black Lives Matter. She is also the host/producer of Stitch Please, a weekly audio podcast that centers on Black women, girls, and femmes in sewing. In the summer of 2017, she became a founding member of Black Lives Matter Charlottesville. She remains active in a variety of university and community initiatives, including the College Fellows Program to reshape the undergraduate general education curriculum.

Guest: Chris Cooper is the owner of Studio Tissue8 and is a Master Seamstress with over 30 years of professional experience specializing in bridal/wedding gowns. Having started sewing for dolls, Chris has transcended all her fears and become a master seamstress and shares her gift of sewing through her store, Studio Tissue8, which offers various services, including its signature Valet Service for Alterations.

Insights from this episode:

• Insights into Chris’ work
• How Chris is sharing her gift of sewing with other people
• Chris’ journey into sewing
• How she came up with the name Studio Tissue8
• Her journey running Studio Tissue8
• Chris’ commitment to sharing her gift of sewing
• How sewing allows her to think and process her problems 
• Chris’ fear of getting started on her journey and how she overcame it

Quotes from the show:

• “I distinctly remember thinking that it was a gift [sewing] because it was never hard for me, it kinda just came to me” - Chris Cooper in “Stitch Please”
• “It was gifted to you so you wanna offer that and amplify that so that other people can have the benefit from it, but also know how to do it themselves as well” - Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “There is something about that fabric in my hand, and the sound of the sewing machine that just puts me at total ease” - Chris Cooper in “Stitch Please”
• “I don’t think ‘I can’t do’ it’s just that I have never done it before” - Chris Cooper in “Stitch Please”
• “Something that I tend to think about fear is that sometimes your victory is on the other side of fear” - Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “You’re never gonna do anything that you wanna do unless you get yourself out of this fear thing” - Chris Cooper in “Stitch Please”
• “Fear is what pushes you, fear is what makes you do things that are out of your comfort zone. If you don’t have fear, then maybe something is not right” - Chris Cooper in “Stitch Please”
• “When I have fear, it sometimes helps me to get the additional information and to find possibility models” - Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”

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Chris Cooper

Website: Studio Tissue8 

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Lisa Woolfork is an associate professor of African American Literature and Culture. Her teaching and research explore Black women writers, the fiction of Black identity, trauma theory, and American slavery. She is the convener and founder of Black Women Stitch, the sewing group where Black Lives Matter. She is also the host/producer of Stitch Please, a weekly audio podcast that centers on Black women, girls, and femmes in sewing. In the summer of 2017, she became a founding member of Black Lives Matter Charlottesville. Actually, she is active in a variety of university and community initiatives, including the College Fellows Program to reshape the undergraduate general education curriculum.

Teju Adisa Farrar

Teju is an environmental equity consultant, speaker, and creator/host of the Black Material Geographies podcast. She centers on climate, racial, and distributive justice by sharing ideas on regenerative practices and co-collaborative design. Teju uses a social geographies perspective encouraging us to think about space, place, and identity. Teju’s lens includes sustainable fiber and fashion systems, urban ecologies, nature, history, activism, and art. She supports people, collectives, and organizations who are mapping / making alternative futures.

Insights from this episode: 

• How to reclaim the traditions that are valuable art and are valuable to us
• How do we look at geography in relation to humans who identify as Black across the planet
• Strategies to help people get economic independence and freedom so that they have to borrow from people and be forever indebted
• Details on how to alleviate people from poverty and give them a platform for economic freedom
• Why it is important to learn where the different textiles come from
• How understanding the importance of making things for ourselves or where they come from can shift how we consume things

Quotes from the show:

• “We need to know how to make things with our hands because that’s how we can support ourselves and live outside systems that don't support us, that don’t value us and in many cases are violent to us and oppress us” - Teju Adisa Farrar in “Stitch Please”
• “I don't ever underestimate the joy and creativity that is involved in Black folks getting dressed, and especially Black women” - Teju Adisa Farrar in “Stitch Please”
• “Black joy is our birthright. We live within systems of oppression that convince us constantly to devalue the things that we do, that are not connected to capitalism and patriarchy” - Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “Freedom isn't a secret; it is a practice” - Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “When you get dressed, and you look the way you wanna look, and you wear the colors you wanna wear and texture, and the style, you feel good” - Teju Adisa Farrar in “Stitch Please”
• “What you wear is like your armor” - Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “Nature is constantly guiding us and resisting us and our efforts, and we can learn a lot about how the natural world operates” - Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “Sustainability is how do we keep things in circulation for as long as possible” - Teju Adisa Farrar in “Stitch Please”
• “Sustainability is if we cannot use it in the way we have been using it, can we use it in a different way and can we find a way to make it work, can we find someone who knows how to use it in a different way” - Teju Adisa Farrar in “Stitch Please”
• “It just the human thing to do, to give people agency, dignity, leisure pleasure” - Teju Adisa Farrar in “Stitch Please”
• “Making is one of the most important pleasures of human life” - Teju Adisa Farrar in “Stitch Please”

Resources Mentioned: 

Black Material Geographies Podcast

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Teju Adisa Farrar

Website: tejuadisafarrar.com

Instagram: @misstej

Twitter: Teju Adisa-Farrar

Facebook: Teju Adisa-Farrar 

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EMERGENCY SUPPORT REQUEST: Sew Hope Community Sewing Room, a Black woman led nonprofit sewing studio was recently damaged by severe flooding: 16 inches of water saturated the newly opened venue. Please donate to the Go Fund Me or directly to the project.  CashApp$SewHopeSTL If financial support is not possible, Sew Hope is accepting donations of machines and fabric. 

About the episode:

Lisa Woolfork is an associate professor of African American Literature and Culture. Her teaching and research explore Black women writers, the fiction of Black identity, trauma theory, and American slavery. She is the convener and founder of Black Women Stitch, the sewing group where Black Lives Matter. She is also the host/producer of Stitch Please, a weekly audio podcast that centers on Black women, girls, and femmes in sewing. In the summer of 2017, she became a founding member of Black Lives Matter Charlottesville. She is active in a variety of university and community initiatives, including the College Fellows Program to reshape the undergraduate general education curriculum.

Angela Franklin

With a BA in Art from Xavier University in Cincinnati and her MFA from Bradley University, Angela Franklin-Faye has exhibited her works both throughout the US and internationally.

She has lived abroad since 1997 and, since 2007, has divided her time between Senegal and the United Arab Emirates. This international experience has resulted in a body of work that has encouraged her to chronicle the experiences of people from the diaspora worldwide. 

Her works are presently featured in the national exhibition of Contemporary African Art for the 13th DAK’Art Biennale, along with the Dialogue in Black and White Exhibition at the Charleston City Gallery.  In addition, Paris Sorbonne University Abu Dhabi, The Art Hub-Abu Dhabi, The Renwick Gallery - Smithsonian Institution, Ohio Craft Museum, and Musee Boribana - Dakar are just a few spaces that featured her work. Works by Franklin-Faye are in the corporate collections of Atlanta Life Insurance Company, The NationsBank, Arco Chemical, and Household Finance. 

In 2013, she earned a second Master's Degree in Online Education and Leadership Management and credits this with having an even greater impact on her artwork. She is the owner of Chez Alpha Books - a bookstore and academic resource center in Dakar, Senegal.

Insights from this episode:

• Angela’s beginning of her sewing journey
• Angela’s adaptability to the fashion and fabric world
• How she has been able to thrive as an artist based on her geography
• Insights into her study of art at Xavier University
• Insights into slavery and black history in regards to Ohio/Kentucky border
• Insights into the stained glass initiative

Quotes from the show:

• “I made a rule that if I am going to be here, let me find a fabric that is found here, let me not rely on African fabric in the Pacific Island, or if I am in the Middle East, let me rely on the fabric that I find there” -Angela Franklin in “Stitch Please”
• “It’s really incredible because what that [adaptability] allows you to do is to both grow as an artist and to be connected to the community in which you are living” -Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “I used to enamel a lot, do a lot of couple enameling and glass fusing, and my whole passion right now is to go back to it” -Angela Franklin in “Stitch Please”
• “When I do this series of work, I said to everyone that it’s not about the trauma of slavery, it’s about the contributions that they made, economically because they would build the prairie” -Angela Franklin in “Stitch Please”
• “Slavery is not black people's shame. Black people should not be ashamed of having been enslaved. The shame is in white people. The shame is in those folks who could compromise so much of their own beliefs to enact the greatest crime against humanity” -Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “The stain glass initiative seeks to acknowledge and perpetuate the diversity of experience and reflection that is needed to envision a better common good” -Angela Franklin in “Stitch Please”

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Lisa Woolfork is an associate professor of English specializing in African American literature and culture. Her teaching and research explore Black women writers, the fiction of Black identity, trauma theory, and American slavery. She is the convener and founder of Black Women Stitch, the sewing group where Black Lives Matter. She is also the host/producer of Stitch Please, a weekly audio podcast that centers on Black women, girls, and femmes in sewing. In the summer of 2017, she became a founding member of Black Lives Matter Charlottesville. Actually, she is active in a variety of university and community initiatives, including the College Fellows Program to reshape the undergraduate general education curriculum.

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Cultured Expressions on the Stitch Please podcast: episode 52 and episode 78.

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Website:  www.CulturedExpressions.com

Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/CulturedExpressions/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/culturedexpressions/

YouTube:  www.youtube.com/CEFabricVideos/Videos

Blog: www.culturedexpressions.wordpress.com

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Host: Lisa Woolfork is an associate professor of African American Literature and Culture. Her teaching and research explore Black women writers, the fiction of Black identity, trauma theory, and American slavery. She is the convener and founder of Black Women Stitch, the sewing group where Black Lives Matter. She is also the host/producer of Stitch Please, a weekly audio podcast that centers on Black women, girls, and femmes in sewing. In the summer of 2017, she became a founding member of Black Lives Matter Charlottesville. She remains active in a variety of university and community initiatives, including the College Fellows Program to reshape the undergraduate general education curriculum.

Marcia Spencer

Marcia Spencer is a style & fashion lover, designer, entrepreneur, and stylist based in Raleigh, Carolina. Marcia loves to incorporate trends into the season and loves the 70s vibes. She has a background in fashion design and retailing and runs the Keechi B Style blog. She has designed and marketed a line of children’s clothing as well as luxury bags and is currently a blogger on the Mood Sewing Network.

Insights from this episode: 

• How to pursue your passion and follow non-traditional careers
• What it means to have a fashion-driven selling philosophy
• How to transition from one business to another and still maintain the passion that you started with
• Details on the inspiration behind the fashion pieces that Marcia creates
• Strategies for getting inspiration from others and tailoring it to fit your style

Quotes from the show:

• “I never thought about it [sewing] as something I could do, make it a career” - Marcia Spencer in “Stitch Please”
• “Fashion has always been a part of me” - Marcia Spencer in “Stitch Please”
• “I am driven by fashion; I make clothes that I want to wear. Why make something that you are not going to feel fabulous in?” - Marcia Spencer in “Stitch Please”
• “Your selling is very fashion-forward and fashion-driven” - Lisa Woolfork, Episode #4
• “Fashion does push the envelope” - Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “Everybody has their own style, and sometimes people haven’t defined their style yet” - Marcia Spencer in “Stitch Please”
• “You know how to sell; you can make it” - Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “The selling process is both a skill and an art, and you’ve been able to use your sewing machine to bring those together” - Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “I think the best way to go about it [fashion] is to look at it as inspiration, not as to copy it, but to be inspired by it” - Marcia Spencer in “Stitch Please”
• “One of the great things I like about buying a pattern is that we can buy the same pattern and it's not going to turn out the same” - Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• “What you wear speaks volumes” - Marcia Spencer in “Stitch Please”
• “I am very passionate about wearing the inside on the outside” - Marcia Spencer in “Stitch Please”
• “I like to be versatile when I go about my pieces… I like to get the most about my outfit ” - Marcia Spencer in “Stitch Please”
• “The biggest thing to get your stitch together is to look at inspiration from other Instagramers and other stitchers, and creators and get inspiration from them, but be yourself” - Marcia Spencer in “Stitch Please”

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Twitter: Lisa Woolfork

Marcia Spencer

Website: Marcia Spencer

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Blog: STYLE BLOG | Keechii B Style

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Mahdiyyah Muhammad is a self-taught Artist, Fashion Designer, and Instructor who began designing at a very young age, breathing new life into discarded clothing. 

She draws inspiration from her practice of fabric alchemy; with an ability to take recycled, bio-based materials and turn them into one of one works of wearable art that boost healing properties. Taken from her research of naturally occurring materials and the effects they have on the body, each design is created with intentional fabric carrying high vibrational frequency like linen, cotton, wool, and organic cotton. Knowing the body in its optimal health has a vibrational frequency of 100, and fabrics like linen and wool contain an extremely high frequency of 5,000, she carefully selects her materials with this in mind. Mahdiyyah speaks more about this in her educational fabric workshops.

With a passion for sharing her knowledge about fabric textile origins, healing qualities, and sewing education, she offers sewing classes, educational healing fabric workshops, and project-based sessions. Her upbringing in East Orange, NJ rooted her values in the importance of community, and creating opportunities for others who may not easily be afforded them. Other initiatives include mentorship opportunities for youth, and collaborations with various community organizations to provide sewing and healing fabric workshops for their members.

Insights from this Episode

• How Mahdiyyah would characterize her sewing story
• How Mahdiyyah built her creativity
• At what point in her life Mahdiyyah decided she wanted to make design her only career
• How Mahdiyyah made all her pieces without a sewing machine
• Why doing her own outfits was a special moment for Mahdiyyah in order to build her confidence
• How Mahdiyyah founded her own business
• Why "repurposing textile" is fundamental forMahdiyyah’s business
• How did Mahdiyyah pair fashion with teaching and community building
• How Mahdiyyah’s experience with an artist in Barbados influenced her purpose with fashion
• What challenges did Mahdiyyah face in her collection of natural materials
• How Mahdiyyah’s childhood influenced her desire to help under-resourced communities through fashion
• What is fabric alchemy
• How does vibration in fabrics works
• What Mahdiyyah would say to help someone to "get their stitch together"

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Twitter: Lisa Woolfork

Mahdiyyah Muhammad

Website: https://www.mahdiyyah.co/

LinkedIn: Mahdiyyah Muhammad 

Instagram: Fabric Alchemist

Facebook: Mahdiyya Mbugua

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Lisa Woolfork is the convener and founder of Black Women Stitch, the sewing group where Black Lives Matter. She is also the host/producer of Stitch Please, a weekly audio podcast that centers on Black women, girls, and femmes in sewing. In the summer of 2017, she became a founding member of Black Lives Matter Charlottesville. Actually, she is active in a variety of university and community initiatives, including the College Fellows Program to reshape the undergraduate general education curriculum.

Stephanie Dean is a vintage-style handmade doll with a modern twist, she wears beautifully colored dresses that are fashioned to appeal to today’s modern child. She has always loved dolls, and her mother, an elementary school teacher, went to great lengths to find African American dolls for her because her mother felt it was important for Stephanie’s self-image to have a positive reflection of herself during playtime. Actually, she is the founder of Cinnamon Annie Dolls where she always seeks to make her dolls representative of her and the black race taking into account the nostalgia of the classic dolls her customers remember from their childhood as well as the modern styling that a contemporary little girl would like. Stephanie has lived in Georgia all her life, she is a keepsake doll and believes that dolls can be everything that you want them to be, the dolls can be played with, used for decoration or collected. Stephanie is married to Tony and is the mother of two young adults, Joseph and Danielle.

Insights from this Episode

• Stephanie’s childhood and her relationship with dolls
• Why Stephanie’s mother wanted her to have black dolls
• Why dolls are important for a child's imagination
• How times have changed for black representation in media
• How Stephanie got involved in AfroBlack Women
• How Stephanie got the opportunity to expose her dolls in the Time Square
• How her company started to grow
• How the last quarter of 2021 was life-changing for Stephanie
• What would Stephanie say to a person that is looking to “get their stitch together”

Quotes from the Show: 

• "A doll can become a friend, you know they’re always there, the doll can become anything that the child wants it to become…it can become a playmate, it can become a tool for learning" - Stephanie Dean in “Stitch Please”
• "I think we have better success, a  more sustainable success when we work in a community than when we are individually scrabbling against each other…there is abundance, there is enough" - Lisa Woolfork in “Stitch Please”
• "Get back to basics and do some things and improve productivity" - Stephanie Dean in “Stitch Please”
• "Follow your enthusiasm…learn about it, love on it, do the best as you can because if you decide to turn this into a business you are going to have to be enthusiastic about it because it's a lot of work" - Stephanie Dean in “Stitch Please”

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Stephanie Dean

Website: https://www.stepstitches.com/

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Facebook: StepStitches 

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