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In this episode, we reflect on how this podcast began as an audio diary during one of the biggest transitions of our lives — and how simply talking things out became therapy in real time. We get honest about growth, accountability, and the difference between going to therapy and actually doing the work.

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We also shift gears into something a little lighter (but just as meaningful): the Stranger Things series finale.

One of us watched it on the big screen in a packed theater on New Year’s Day — crowds, reactions, emotions and all. The other watched it quietly at the cabin, late at night, the way it’s always been: just us, no distractions. We talk about:

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