His son said the business didn't take his dad away. It brought the family closer. That's not the answer most owners get.

Todd sits down with Alan O'Neill and his son, Paul, for the most personal episode this show has ever done. Paul was six when Abacus started. He grew up inside the business — warehouse Saturdays, fake commercials in the living room, summers as a plumbing apprentice.

When Todd asked what it was really like, Paul didn't describe chaos. He described a family that shared something together.

Then he said something his dad had never heard before.

You'll learn:

• What it was actually like at home while Alan built Abacus from nothing
• How Alan included his kids without giving them the burden
• The voice in Paul's head that Alan never knew existed
• The hardest sacrifice Alan made — and why he's not sure he'd do it again
• Todd's honest reflection on the seasons his family saw the worst of him

Full show notes: toddliles.com/mindset

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