Persuasion and manipulation can look identical from the outside. Same words. Same tone. Same delivery.
So what's the real difference?
In this episode of Todd Liles & The Wizard of Ads, Todd and Roy break down the hidden psychology behind influence — and reveal why intent is what separates ethical persuasion from manipulation.
Roy explains how perception shapes reality, why people argue personal preferences like they're facts, and how confidence transfers from a communicator to an audience.
Todd brings the operator's lens, grounding the conversation in leadership, sales, and everyday decision-making.
This is not an episode about tactics.
It's a conversation about human behavior, trust, and the responsibility that comes with having influence.
In this episode, you'll learn:
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Why persuasion is ethical when rooted in sincere belief
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How manipulation exposes itself through insecurity and fear
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The mechanics of confidence transfer and why it works
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Why people don't buy facts — they buy meaning
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Why illusions reveal how the mind actually interprets reality
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How leaders must speak to perception, not just information
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How sincerity beats "cleverness" in long-term persuasion
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Why intent determines the moral weight of influence
If you communicate, sell, teach, lead, or create, this episode will reshape the way you think about persuasion — and how people make decisions.
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