For 40 years Iby kept it secret that she’d been held in Auschwitz – she didn’t even tell her husband. Finally, 30 years ago, she told Carolyn. Now the two have a conversation about why her, and why then. Iby also talks with her granddaughter about her refusal to be defined by being a Holocaust survivor, and reads the powerful poem she wrote in the hope that her experiences will not have been in vain.