David Olsen is the Editor in Chief of Kelp Journal, a boutique publisher of literature including surf noir and ocean-based literature. He also writes under the pen name Nik Xandir Wolf.

We talk about publishing and writing, what makes writing great, endings, Steinbeck, writing pet peeves, favorite books, the genre noir and how to define it, surfing and big-wave surfing, AI and our opinions on its usefuleness for writers, why AI is getting worse instead of better, the future of Kelp Journal and Kelp Press, more surfing, spearfishing, the value of stepping outside your comfort zone, superpowers, and more.

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