Join me in episode 55 as Dr. Eleanor Haspel-Portner shares her journey of blending esoteric wisdom with scientific discovery. With a Ph.D. from the University of Chicago, Dr. Eleanor has published numerous bestselling books and helped thousands of individuals synthesize life experiences to live healthy, successful, and creative lives. She believes that spiritual awakening and radiating love from the core lead to a well-balanced, happy life. Through her work with Noble Energy Wellness, Dr. Eleanor empowers individuals to manifest their highest potential.

Welcoming Dr. Eleanor Haspel Portner and introducing her unique integrative background.

**00:01:47 - Dr. Eleanor’s Earliest Memories and Education as a Psychologist**

Dr. Eleanor shares her early memories and educational journey in psychology.

**00:05:12 - Joining the University of Chicago’s Integrative Social Science Dept**

She discusses her work in psychology, sociology, biology, and anthropology, which she later realized aligns with the Four Worlds model.

**00:08:56 - Private Practice and Gaining Skills**

Dr. Eleanor talks about her private practice and the skills she developed.

**00:17:20 - Meeting Marvin**

The story of how Dr. Eleanor met her husband, Dr. Marvin.

**00:19:50 - Learning Human Design and the Tree of Life**

Exploring how Dr. Eleanor discovered Human Design and its connection to the Tree of Life.

**00:29:56 - Scientific Testing of Human Design**

Dr. Eleanor's efforts in scientifically testing the principles of Human Design.

**00:40:06 - Breaking with Human Design but Maintaining Rights to the “Real Bodygraph”**

Her decision to diverge from traditional Human Design teachings while retaining the rights to the original bodygraph.

**00:46:11 - Human Design is Incomplete**

Dr. Eleanor's perspective on the limitations of Human Design and areas for further development.

**00:57:38 - The Four Worlds**

Introducing Dr. Eleanor's "Four Worlds" model, blending scientific rigor with spiritual wisdom.

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