System of Systems

Writer Will Samson hangs with Adam to discuss Public Enemy, Throbbing Gristle, industrial and rap music more broadly, and his recent article for Apocalypse Confidential.

SOUNDTRACK
Throbbing Gristle - Discipline (live) https://music.apple.com/us/album/discipline-reprise-live/1412909636?i=1412909785
Throbbing Gristle - Dead Souls Live https://music.apple.com/us/album/dead-souls-live/1412909636?i=1412909776
Captain Beefheart - Dachau Blues https://music.apple.com/us/album/dachau-blues/1579587935?i=1579588371
Pere Ubu - Chinese Radiation https://music.apple.com/us/album/chinese-radiation/1061144951?i=1061144960
Public Enemy Night of the Living Bassheads https://music.apple.com/us/album/night-of-the-living-baseheads/1427923490?i=1427928629
Public Enemy - Burn Hollywood Burn https://music.apple.com/us/album/burn-hollywood-burn-feat-ice-cube-big-daddy-kane/1440837282?i=1440837849
Ice Cube - Who's The Mack https://music.apple.com/us/album/whos-the-mack/1422704616?i=1422705017

LINKS:
Will Samson's twitter: @_Will_Samson_ https://twitter.com/_Will_Samson_
Will's Apocalypse Confidential article: https://apocalypse-confidential.com/2021/05/12/war-at-33-1-3-throbbing-gristle-public-enemy-datapanik/

Alex Bienstock is an artist from Brooklyn, a PARTY BOY, a domestically violent sociopath who hates women, a based swaggot, a tender hearted lover of women, a racist, a homophobe, a homo, a hypochondriac who cant get sick, das ubermensch, a jew, an anti semite, the first person to do art ever. THE STOCK!

Bienstock is an IRL friend and his new book of writing and illustrations 'Da Bitch Gave Me Jew Balls' is the FIRST PUBLICATION EVER BY ADAM's NEW PUBLISHING IMPRINT SAFETY PROPAGANDA BOOKS. We are out of the first run but we are printing more copies that can be purchased through contacting Bienstock, Adam, or through the SP e-commerce site www.safetypropaganda.store.

SOUNDTRACK:

DEAD REPTILE SHRINE "Alpha Qabalstica" https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=xPxsr8jh-rE
Lil Justo "Gualla" https://youtu.be/OB1NdsCDfpU
Dead Reptile Shrine "Above the Ziggurat they Dance" https://youtu.be/diq57Z9WwaE
Dead Reptile Shrine "Weapon Crucifixion and Drowning" https://youtu.be/nIbgl0iOWTU
Einsturzende Neubauten "Morning Dew" https://music.apple.com/us/album/morning-dew/1438434385?i=1438434399
To live and Shave in LA 2 "The Saddest Song in the World" https://music.apple.com/us/album/the-saddest-song-in-the-world/219832283?i=219832864
DJ Quik and Kurupt "Cream" https://music.apple.com/us/album/cream/711793971?i=711793997

LINKS:
Bienstock website: www.alexbienstock.com
Bienstock twitter: @ESCBAS
Bienstock instagram: @nicedudewhochills
Alex Bienstock "We, The Post Artists" for Safety Propaganda: https://safetypropaganda.substack.com/p/we-the-post-artists-by-alex-bienstock
Interview with Bienstock: https://safetypropaganda.substack.com/p/we-the-post-artists-by-alex-bienstock

Adam and Ben kick it old school. No guests, all killer, no filler. Topics of discussion include the removal of Ben's wisdom teeth, Benjamin Bratton's Covid totalitarianism advocacy, the rise of a new medical authoritarianism, and the passing of the great musicians Joey Jordison (Slipknot drummer) drummer and Peter Rehberg (electronic music producer PITA). 

SOUNDTRACK:

PITA "Acid Udon": https://music.apple.com/us/album/acid-udon/262236237?i=262236373

Slipknot "Disasterpiece": https://music.apple.com/us/album/acid-udon/262236237?i=262236373

Ultravoxx "Slow Motion": https://music.apple.com/us/album/slow-motion/1444010165?i=1444010336

Sandwell District "Immolate" https://music.apple.com/us/album/immolare-function-version/470488354?i=470488357

Howlin Wolf "Evil is Goin On" https://music.apple.com/us/album/evil-is-going-on/1425203542?i=1425203977

LINKS:

Peter Rehberg remembered: https://thequietus.com/articles/30268-peter-rehberg-obituary

Gisele Viéne and Dennis Cooper sounftracked by Peter Rehberg and Stephen O' Malley https://vimeo.com/61087138

Joey Jordison eulogy https://www.nme.com/news/music/slipknots-founding-drummer-joey-jordison-has-died-at-46-3004210

Benjamin Bratton shittalks Agamben https://www.versobooks.com/books/3787-the-revenge-of-the-real

Nicolas Hausdorf takesdown Bratton https://im1776.com/2021/07/20/epidemic-epistemes/

 

CJ Hopins on the propaganda machine and how to fight it https://cjhopkins.substack.com/p/the-propaganda-war-and-how-to-fight

 

Connor Kelly and left lockdown skeptics https://leftlockdownsceptics.com/2021/07/collaboration-or-resistance-part-1-our-brand-new-shiny-fascist-state/?doing_wp_cron=1626901842.8362779617309570312500

In this exclusive interview, Adam talks to California-based artist Marc Horowitz (husband to previous guest Petra Cortright, a kind of full circle) to talk about his career and his life. Marc grew up "poor as fuck" in Middle America before moving to California to get a degree in business. One thing leading to the next, Marc eventually transitioned to being an artist after taking a painting class during his senior year. The first half of his career saw Marc staging elaborate conceptual projects that forced the art world to confront its own financial and cultural contradictions. But at some point, painting called him back. Since then, Marc has developed his own singular aesthetic in painting that blends modernist history with pop cultural tropes. He's also a rad dude and a good gossip, so enjoy!   Marc has a book coming out in the Fall, which will include a text written by your faithful host Adam Lehrer.   ANOTHER COUNTER-AGENT OF THE AVANT-GARDE MEETS HIS HANDLER   Soundtrack: Joy Division "Shadowplay (Live)" https://music.apple.com/us/album/the-coming-of-the-black-legions/1264216171?i=1264219080 Inade "The Coming of the Black Legions" https://music.apple.com/us/album/the-coming-of-the-black-legions/1264216171?i=1264219080 Funkadelic "Super Stupid" https://music.apple.com/us/album/the-coming-of-the-black-legions/1264216171?i=1264219080 Cecil Taylor "Crossing II" https://music.apple.com/us/album/the-coming-of-the-black-legions/1264216171?i=1264219080 Eyehategod "Methamphetamine" https://music.apple.com/us/album/the-coming-of-the-black-legions/1264216171?i=1264219080   LINKS: Marc Horowitz at Johannes Vogt Gallery http://www.johannesvogt.nyc/marc-horowitz/ Marc's archive: http://1833marcive.com/ Marc interviewed by his best professor and great surrealist photographer Charlie White: https://youtu.be/WiaQ0fJjzpc

Friend of the show and co-host of the Rare Candy podcast Glen Rockney joins the boys to discuss the career of who we think is the best American filmmaker to emerge in the 2010s, S. Craig Zahler. Discussing all three of his films — Bone Tomahawk, Brawl in Cell Block 99, and Dragged Across Concrete — the trio pinpoints the artistically interesting formal qualities that have separated Zahler from his contemporaries as one of the emerging film artists to celebrate: extreme length, genre subversion, hyperviolence, dialog, and more. They also try and parse Zahler's unique ideological viewpoint that seems to cross a Marxian critique of political economy with dissident right and conservative analysis of the lost values in American life. The career of Mel Gibson is also given the once-over.

 

We also briefly discuss the low energy cancellation of Dom Fernow.

Soundtrack: 

Kool Keith "Plastic World" https://music.apple.com/us/album/plastic-world-feat-kutmasta-kurt/1341877896?i=1341878734

Mars "Tunnel" https://music.apple.com/us/album/tunnel/1032781493?i=1032782129

The Stranglers "Black and White" https://music.apple.com/us/album/tank/696004821?i=696004907

Thergothon "Everlasting" (https://music.apple.com/us/album/everlasting/306282150?i=306282168)

Ted Nugent "Stranglehold"  https://music.apple.com/us/album/stranglehold/197914607?i=197914626

Lil B "Mel Gibson" https://youtu.be/Jo9Hjzu3BSs

William Basinski "O My Daughter, O My Sorrow" https://youtu.be/oOYYmgXWUkw 

"Four Doomed Men Ride Out" from the Bone Tomahawk soundtrack: https://youtu.be/ssmYt8vL540

 

LINKS: 

Glen Rockney on twitter: https://twitter.com/GlenRockney

Rare Candy on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf-OCbm2KZQvZFt5YkmdbWw 

Rare Candy on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/rare-candy/id1504917580 

S Craig Zahler interview: https://www.theringer.com/movies/2019/3/22/18276913/s-craig-zahler-dragged-across-concrete-brawl-in-cell-block-99

S. Craig Zahler canceled by zoomer: https://youtu.be/WmdwJ5XMfLo

Black Antonio Negri cancels Dom Fernow: https://jeanhugueskabuiku.substack.com/p/about-vatican-shadow-link-with-the 

The boys are joined by friend, artist, writer and co-host of the Break the Rules Podcast Gio Pennacchietti to discuss PAINTING. Painting, so much and so little to say. Its history, its dreary present. The tendency towards what Dean Kissick calls "zombie figuration" and what separates the brilliance of Matthew Barney from the average new media artist. But mostly, we discuss four artists to emerge out of postmodernism or later that we believe are upholding some nobler archetype of the painter historically: Anselm Kiefer, Justin Mortimer, Martin Kippenberger, and Michael Krebber.  

 

Soundtrack: 

Skullflower "Shit Strasse" (https://music.apple.com/us/album/shit-strasse/1058051213?i=1058051222)

Mobb Deep ft. Nas and Raekwon "Eye for an Eye" (https://youtu.be/OOPjFkVJbew)

Grouper "Wind and Snow" (https://youtu.be/1OPm1LU2cbA)

Grouper "Vapor Trails" (https://youtu.be/U_rxkLzcTg0)

The Hymn of Kassiani (https://youtu.be/JrJnbtTSywY)

Fairuz "Estantere" (https://youtu.be/GlOVmZx_qu0)

Test Dept. "Fist" (https://youtu.be/w4yQnunUqSw)

Dead Can Dance "Black Sun" (https://youtu.be/VPd-MSr19qI)

The Rolling Stones "Stray Cat Blues" (https://youtu.be/oOSYB38y2xA)

Brian Eno "Tal Coat" (https://youtu.be/10uVS6ssCxU)

Erik Satie "Gnossienne No.3 " (https://youtu.be/3c_RU2NcJ9c)

 

Image:

 

Martin Kippenberger "Martin Into the Corner, You Should be Ashamed of Yourself"

 

LINKS:

 

Gio on Twitter: https://twitter.com/giantgio?lang=en

Gio's Wordpress: https://gioscontentcorner.wordpress.com/author/giopennacchietti/

Break the Rules: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPKaSxQ7frxGAwgaQ29P9Eg

Alastair Mackinven interviewed by Adam: https://safetypropaganda.substack.com/p/safety-propagandist-3-alastair-mackinven

Justin Mortimer's website: http://justinmortimer.co.uk/

Anselm Kiefer at Gagosian: https://gagosian.com/artists/anselm-kiefer/

Martin Kippenberger at Gagosian: https://gagosian.com/artists/martin-kippenberger/

Michael Krebber at Greene Naftali: https://www.greenenaftaligallery.com/artists/michael-krebber

Our old pal Geoff Shullenberger, writer and critic extraordinaire, is back on System of Systems to discuss his new piece for American Greatness – 'How We Forgot Foucault.' In it, Geoff describes the irony in Foucault's recent dip in citations and his abandonment as a "hero of the modern left," given that during the pandemic so much of Foucault's theories on biopolitics and biopower have proven to be utterly true. We discuss the aspects of Foucault's ideas that have emerged as inconvenient to a left and liberal establishment all too eager to abandon freedom and civil rights in the name of public safety and health. Fuck them!

Aside from a long-winded Foucault chat, there's lots of discussion here on Agamben, the rise of toothless, mainstreamed "anti-woke" posturing becoming the new controlled opposition, and we talk about works of art that we're into (as always).

Recommendations: Geoff: Roberto Calasso 'The Ruin of Kasch' (https://www.amazon.com/Ruin-Kasch-Roberto-Calasso/dp/0674780299), Phillip Roth 'Sabbath's Theater' (https://www.amazon.com/Sabbaths-Theater-Philip-Roth/dp/0679772596)

Ben: St. John Maximovitch 'The Orthodox Veneration of the Mother of God' (https://music.apple.com/us/album/nightmare/678046222?i=678046559), Bruce Wagner 'Dead Stars' (https://www.amazon.com/Dead-Stars-Novel-Bruce-Wagner-ebook/dp/B0085DP2UW)

Adam: Audrey Szasz 'Tears of a Komsomol Girl' (https://www.infinitylandpress.com/tearsofakomsomolgirl), Jacques Rivette 'Out 1' (https://mubi.com/specials/jacques-rivette-out-1), Bruno Dumont 'TwentyNine Palms' (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0315110/), Anna Kavan, Kentaro Miura

SOUNDTRACK: Aseptic Void – "Psychosis" (https://cryochamber.bandcamp.com/album/psychosis)
Anthony Braxton – "New York, Fall 1974" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY6AqtNShl4)
System Planning Korporation "Ground Zero: Infinity Dose" (https://spkau.bandcamp.com/album/information-overload-unit) Sarcófago "Nightmare" (https://music.apple.com/us/album/nightmare/678046222?i=678046559)

Links: Geoff on Foucault: https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2021/05/how-we-forgot-foucault/ Adam on Saul Fletcher and murder: https://safetypropaganda.substack.com/p/the-crime-of-saul-fletcher-by-adam

A long sought-after guest joins System of Systems to discuss a number of artistic, philosophical, and political topics. Adam and the writer, critic and philosopher DC Miller became internet-linked after Adam demonstrated public interest in DC's writing. The result was that Adam was fired from The Quietus, where he wrote a regular column on the noise music underground and critical theory, and lost a number of other writing contracts. How did DC become such a controversial figure? Well, it mostly stems from the extreme Antifa-led overreaction to the now defunct British gallery LD50 and its 2017 exhibition that examined the imagery of what was then being called the alt-right and hosted talks by thinkers like Nick Land and Brett Stevens. DC heroically defended the gallery's right to tackle sensitive ideas and art. For that commitment to freedom of expression and fundamental enlightenment values, DC lost all of his positions in the art world. Seemingly overnight, he went from a known regular art critic for Frieze and Art Monthly to persona non grata.

But we believe that DC is among the most misunderstood thinkers and creative people currently in the discourse. Though Adam and DC do have some differences in their view points, they also agree on a lot, specifically when it comes to diagnosing what is WRONG in our culture. In this chat, DC and Adam discuss art, psyops, the left, the elite, and recent work by the writer. DC recently wrote a response article to the essay that Adam published, 'Marxist Defends the Great Reactionaries,' that will be also published by American Greatness soon. DC is now publishing regularly on his Substack, is a contributing editor to im1776, and also publishes with The Conservative Woman. Enjoy the show!

 

SOUNDTRACK:

Drexciya "Neptune's Lair" (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLryJ-4UNwXnfNR1h7RHPT2_TT6hu91G1o)

Scott Walker "Farmer in the City" (https://youtu.be/zIJzTWk6bSw)

Ghoulbog "Tredje Stycket" (https://styggelsetapes.bandcamp.com/track/tredje-stycket-viddernas-h-rskare)

 

Links:

 

DC's Substack: https://cryptogram.substack.com/ 

DC debates Zeroh HP Lovecraft: https://im1776.com/2021/06/08/dialogue-dc-miller-vs-zero-hp-lovecraft/ 

"The Occult Left": https://cryptogram.substack.com/p/the-locusts-have-no-king 

DC Miller "The True Story of LD50": https://medium.com/@dctvbot/no-platform-for-aristotle-867a04c5da50 

Jonathan Jones on LD50: https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2017/feb/22/art-galleries-free-speech-ld50-dalston 

Adam's statement on being fired from the Quietus: https://www.adamlehrer.com/blog/2020/8/11/a-statement-on-my-severed-relationship-with-the-quietus

Adam "A Marxist Defends the Great Reactionaries": https://amgreatness.com/2021/01/01/a-marxist-defends-the-great-reactionaries/ 

DC, Justin Murphy, and Nina Power: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvUcO8sQZSI 

Walter Pearce revolutionized casting in the New York fashion industry as the casting director for the early Hood by Air shows before co-founding the Midland Agency. Recently, however, Walter has gotten hella BASED! Off opiates, he felt serious discontent with the liberalism of the fashion industry. He has now been posting memes, throwing bombs, quoting Adam and Benedict Cryptofash, and brings a refreshing perspective to the System of Systems oeuvre.

Also, we should mention that this is the beginning of System of Systems 2.0. From here on out, we will start evolving our aesthetic visually, as well as appropriating our favorite based music.

This show's soundtrack:

Rotary Connection "Amen" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tilgHVpRBnA)
Dark Day "Laughing up Your Sleeve" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSC_TcR7OYo)
Thirdorgan "The Pornography of Despair" (https://hospitalproductions.bandcamp.com/album/the-pornography-of-despair)

Walter on Instagram: @walterpearce https://www.instagram.com/walterpearce/

Walter on twitter: @walt_knows_best https://twitter.com/walt_knows_best

Midland Agency: https://midland.agency/

After a host of media hacks are deployed to fear monger the specter of the post-left, Angie Speaks of the Low Society podcast joins the boys to discuss the histrionics of the pseudo-dissidents, lies, smears, cruelty, the kayfabe, and internet censorious fervor. The temporal loop continues spinning. There is also discussion on religion, spirituality, the occult, christianity, paganism, and David Lynch. We also talk about the divinely kooky Nikole-Hannah Jones' denial of tenure, and the media libs' reaction to it.

Links:

Low Society: https://soundcloud.com/low-society
Angie on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUtloyZ_Iu4BJekIqPLc_fQ WSWS on Nikole-Hannah: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/05/22/uncc-m22.html Freddie DeBoer on the age of political Kayfabe: https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/the-age-of-kayfabe