We talk to Sally Bradford Mckenna, co-showrunner of the new Peacock show Laid.

She explains how she first got her break, reluctantly, on Will & Grace, how her father's career helped shaped hers and why every show needs two showrunners.

She talks about the evolution of comedy writing, difficult rooms early in her career and being brought in to solve problems on shows, and how that didn't always go down well.

Sally talks about the excitement of co-showrunning, why she wants to try it solo and how much she has learner from her partner Nahnatchka Khan.

A fascinating episode exploring comedy, showrunning and the intricacies of making it in Hollywood.