Join host Geoffrey Rubin, MD, MBA, FACR, for a candid and wide-ranging conversation with Mitchell D. Schnall, MD, PhD, FACR—Professor of Radiology and Senior Vice President for Data and Technology Solutions at Penn Medicine.

A highly accomplished radiology researcher and leader, Dr. Schnall served for 12 years as Vice Chair for Research in the Department of Radiology at the University of Pennsylvania, followed by another 12 years as Chair. His national leadership includes serving as Chair of ACRIN and the ACR Commission on Research, as well as President of the Academy for Radiology and Biomedical Imaging Research. His research contributions have earned him election to the American Society for Clinical Investigation, the Association of American Physicians, and the National Academy of Medicine.

In this episode, Dr. Schnall reflects on his journey—from a curious kid with a ham radio license and an Ivy League gymnast to a nationally recognized leader in academic radiology. He shares how his background in physics and engineering shaped his hands-on approach to problem-solving, innovation, and leadership—including his early work developing MRI coils and his unexpected path into breast imaging research.

Dr. Schnall also discusses lessons from his time leading Penn Radiology, his philosophy on team building and faculty development, and why embracing discomfort, trusting others, and taking smart risks are essential traits for effective leadership.

With humility, clarity, and a touch of humor, Dr. Schnall offers valuable insights into the realities of leading in academic medicine, the importance of intellectual generosity, and the power of staying curious throughout one’s career. Don’t miss this thoughtful conversation with a leader who continues to shape the future of radiology—while never losing sight of the joy in figuring things out.