"Where were you when you heard the news?" Katty and Carlos kick off this week's episode examining the impact of President Trump's Covid-19 diagnosis and what it means for the presidential election in November. They move onto the death of George Floyd and the recent grand jury decision not to charge police officers with the killing of Breonna Taylor. With race relations in America back at boiling point, the country is being forced to confront a painful history which includes slavery and oppression. Joining Katty and Carlos are Christina Greer, professor of political science at Fordham University, and the award winning South African journalist Justice Malala.

Editor: Penny Murphy

Produced by Sandra Kanthal, Viv Jones and Maeve McGoran, with reporting from Suzanne Kianpour

Mixed by Nigel Appleton