In this episode of "Talking with..." Daniel sits down with Paul Ansorge.

They discuss where Paul grew up, and living in Zimbabwe as a kid (also meeting Robert Mugabe). Maradona at the 1986 World Cup. Zidane at the 1998 World Cup. How did he come to support Manchester United, and witnessing the Sir Alex era—from the 1980s through the 2010s—and why the return of No. 7 soured the love. The interesting role football writing/podcasting played in helping get his career in psychotherapy going after school. We end with the quick fire round, featuring elephants, his mother's artwork, the woods, and De La Soul.

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