Talking With Tech AAC Podcast

In this episode, Chris talks with Dr. Lesley Sylvan, author of the second edition of Multi-Tiered Systems of Support: Implementation Tools for Speech-Language Pathologists in Education. Lesley shares how the book evolved following the pandemic and why the new edition expands its focus on AAC, implementation science, universal screening, collaboration, and practical tools for school-based speech-language pathologists.

Lesley and Chris explore what MTSS really means and several common misconceptions about it. They discuss why MTSS is not a pre-referral process, why students should not be labeled by tiers, and how SLPs can extend their impact beyond individual services through universal screening, consultation, collaboration, and schoolwide supports. They also examine the growing connection between AAC and MTSS, including how visual and multimodal communication supports can become part of a broader culture of access rather than something reserved only for individual students.

Rachel and Chris reconnect to share a candid update on what’s been happening behind the scenes with Talking With Tech including changes to the production team, why episodes have been less frequent, and what listeners can expect moving forward.

They also share personal and professional updates, including how life has shaped their schedules, what Rachel is building next in her AAC training work, and what Chris has been creating with the Inclusive 365 team including new “Inclusive 52” books focused on reading and executive functioning.

In this episode, Rachel Madel interviews Jesse and Holly Erickson, parents of Bedford, a young child with Schwartz-Jampel syndrome. They share their journey to diagnosis, what it’s like navigating a rare condition with limited research and few clear answers, and the day-to-day realities families face such as unexpected barriers in common environments.

They also describe how posts on social media gained momentum and sparked an extraordinary community response which fueled the effort to create an inclusive playground so Bedford (and other children) can play with access, dignity, and joy.

Chris talks with Lynsey Phillips and Brie Norton, two AAC leaders in Northwest Arkansas who have built a powerful, practical framework for AAC implementation across settings. They share how their partnership, spanning private practice and public schools, helped move AAC from isolated “expert-driven” work to a shared responsibility model that includes educators, peers, families, and community partners.

In this episode, Chris & Rachel talk with Bob Sagoo a longtime assistive technology professional and parent advocate. Bob shares the story of his son Harchie, his path from low-tech communication supports to high-tech eye gaze and the Grid ecosystem. Bob shares how Harchie’s drive for speed, independence, and participation (including accessible gaming) shaped the way he thought about AAC. Bob also introduces The Harchie Way, a foundation being developed to carry forward Harchie’s legacy by connecting AAC users and the assistive technology industry, promoting education (including healthcare communication access), and pushing for innovation that is truly user-informed.

Harchie was deeply interested in how AAC could evolve beyond static grid sets. Bob shares Harchie’s ideas about AI-enabled AAC supports (like context-aware vocabulary that changes based on location, predictive communication supports, and using a device camera to recognize emotion/health cues and prompt for support). The underlying message is that AAC users should be involved at the concept stage, not just asked to test a finished product.

Bob outlines early goals for The Harchie Way: creating pathways for AAC users to share priorities directly with developers, promoting education and awareness (especially for healthcare providers supporting people who don’t communicate in conventional ways), and advocating for access in real-life systems (medical tech, banking, and beyond). Bob also shares Harchie’s future-facing vision of helping AAC users attend and present at conferences such mirroring the strong user-centered culture seen at Communication Matters in the UK.

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This episode, Chris & Rachel interview Britton Payne! Britton Payne is an entertainment attorney who has worked with major studios like Nickelodeon and Warner Bros., and he is also the father of an autistic son. He founded The Autism Scene and created the AUSPEC Awards to promote authentic autistic representation—especially non-speaking AAC users—in children’s animation!

Key Ideas This Week:

Authentic Autistic Representation in Kids’ Media Matters - Britton emphasizes that autistic and non-speaking characters are vastly underrepresented in children’s animation. Because kids’ pop culture reaches every home and classroom, it has huge potential to model empathy, patience, and inclusion—especially for non-speaking autistic people who use AAC. Representation in media can teach children how to interact respectfully with peers long before adulthood.

The Autism Scene and AUSPEC Awards Aim to Change the Industry - Britton founded The Autism Scene and created the AUSPEC Awards, a script competition requiring meaningful interaction with an explicitly autistic character. The competition offers resources, tutorials, sample scripts, and feedback from autism consultants, autistic reviewers, and animation industry leaders. The goal is to help writers create characters that are authentic, non-ableist, and industry-ready—and to make studio executives more comfortable greenlighting shows with autistic characters.

Inclusion Requires Patience, Understanding, and High Expectations - Through stories about his friend Alfonso and conversations about AAC, Britton highlights how neurotypical people must learn to wait, listen, and presume competence—especially with non-speaking AAC users. He stresses that autistic people belong in every genre and every part of society. Giving them space and tools to express themselves enriches everyone’s storytelling and understanding of the world.

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This week, we share Rachel’s interview with Quinn Kelly! Quinn Kelly is a bilingual speech-language pathologist who specializes in working with children who use both AAC and American Sign Language (ASL). She serves on the AAC committee for the New Jersey Speech and Hearing Association and works with Language First, an organization supporting professionals serving deaf and hard-of-hearing students. In this episode, Quinn shares her expertise on the intersection of AAC and ASL, advocating for culturally sensitive, individualized, and collaborative approaches to communication support.

Key Ideas this Week:

The Intersection of AAC and ASL Requires Cultural and Clinical Sensitivity – Quinn Kelly emphasizes that not all deaf or hard-of-hearing individuals are ideal candidates for AAC, and decisions must consider cognitive, motor, visual, and cultural factors. Professionals should avoid a one-size-fits-all approach and ensure AAC supports are culturally and linguistically respectful of Deaf identity and ASL as a full language.

Collaboration and Family-Centered Decision Making Are Essential – Effective support requires collaboration among SLPs, teachers of the deaf, audiologists, OTs/PTs, and families. Since most families of deaf or hard-of-hearing children have little prior experience with Deaf culture, professionals play a key role in educating and guiding them through complex communication decisions involving sign language, AAC, and spoken modalities.

Research and Practical Strategies Can Bridge AAC and ASL – Quinn shares practical tools (e.g., ASL symbol sets, video-based icons, advocacy buttons like “I need an interpreter”) and highlights new research she co-authored showing how AAC and ASL can complement each other. This underscores the growing recognition—supported by ASHA’s updated stance—that ASL is a language, not a form of AAC, and that multimodal communication approaches can empower deaf and hard-of-hearing communicators.

Visit talkingwithtech.org for weekly episodes, transcripts, and resources to help speech-language pathologists, caregivers, and communication partners tailor technology for people with complex communication needs!

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This week, we share Chris's interview with Brian Whitmer! Brian is the founder of the AAC app CoughDrop and Open AAC, a nonprofit organization dedicated to improving the AAC field through collaboration, transparency, and open data initiatives. Whitmer discusses his goal of fostering innovation, sharing community insights, and helping the AAC industry move toward more equitable and effective practices.

Key ideas from This Episode:

Open AAC’s mission is to improve the AAC field through collaboration and transparency: Whitmer described how Open AAC takes a “bird’s-eye view” of the AAC industry, collecting data from professionals, users, and families to identify trends, challenges, and opportunities for growth — all without being tied to any single product or company .

The “State of AAC” survey highlights progress and persistent challenges: The annual Open AAC survey gathers open-ended responses about apps, vocabularies, and practices. Results show that while awareness and resources are growing, issues such as inconsistent education practices, limited partner training, and inequitable funding continue to hinder progress .

The new “AAC GPA” aims to measure industry progress and accountability: Open AAC introduced an “AAC GPA” to grade different aspects of the field (education, advocacy, community, openness, etc.). The 2024 average was 1.9 out of 4.0, signaling that while some areas (like family engagement) are improving, education and systemic adoption remain major areas for development.

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This week, Chris interviews Katie Roettele! Katie Roettele is an occupational therapist and assistive technology consultant based in Michigan, specializing in AAC and universal design for learning. She is passionate about using STEM and maker tools like Makey Makey and 3D printing to create accessible, hands-on learning experiences and DIY assistive technology!

Key Ideas This Week:

Early and Consistent AAC Use Matters – Introducing augmentative and alternative communication (AAC) early helps children develop both language and confidence. It’s not about “waiting until they’re ready,” but about giving them tools to communicate right away.

Partnership Between Families and Professionals – Successful AAC implementation depends on collaboration. Families bring deep knowledge of their child, while therapists and educators provide strategies and system support. When these perspectives merge, AAC use grows naturally.

Focus on Real Communication, Not Just Devices – AAC is about building authentic communication opportunities, not just mastering the buttons on a device. Embedding AAC into daily routines, play, and social interactions fosters meaningful language growth.

Visit talkingwithtech.org for weekly episodes, transcripts, and resources to help speech-language pathologists, caregivers, and communication partners tailor technology for people with complex communication needs!

Join the Talking With Tech Patreon to get exclusive benefits like bonus guest‐interview episodes, behind-the-scenes videos, giveaways, and priority answers to your AAC questions to help you sharpen your skills and confidence in AAC!

This week, we share Rachel’s interview with Kayla Ireland! Kayla is a podcaster, college student, AAC User, and advocate who lives with cerebral palsy and epilepsy. She amplifies diverse voices through her shows, shares her personal communication journey, and the value of developing multiple modes of communication!

Key Ideas This Week:

The power of mindset and belief — Rachel shares how her mother’s cancer journey has shown the importance of optimism, presence, and reframing difficult experiences. She connects this lesson to her professional work, emphasizing that believing in someone’s potential can transform outcomes.

Communication is multimodal — Kayla Ireland highlights that AAC is not just about devices. She uses a blend of sign language, fingerspelling, body language, vocalizations, and technology. Her advice is to use total communication and not force a hierarchy of methods.

Efficiency and individuality in AAC use — Kayla explains that one or two words can carry the meaning of a full sentence, and sometimes spelling or gestures are faster than devices. She encourages professionals to respect user preferences and contexts rather than strictly focusing on grammar or pre-programmed systems.

Visit talkingwithtech.org for weekly episodes, transcripts, and resources to help speech-language pathologists, caregivers, and communication partners tailor technology for people with complex communication needs!

Join the Talking With Tech Patreon to get exclusive benefits like bonus guest‐interview episodes, behind-the-scenes videos, giveaways, and priority answers to your AAC questions to help you sharpen your skills and confidence in AAC!