Clarence Page is knowledgeable, reasonable, and nice, which makes you wonder how does this guy have a job in opinion journalism? On The Gist, we'll speak with Page about the current state of race relations and media today, explored in his essay collection Culture Worrier. Plus, Judith Owen and Harry Shearer tell us about the war on wars on Christmas being waged in their show A Christmas Without Tears. Their new single is Christmas With the Devil. For the Spiel, a belated antentwig and the naming of our newest Lobstar.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.