Mark Leonard's World in 30 Minutes

Tariffs, tensions, and trade: Trump’s gamble on China


Listen Later

Two weeks after Donald Trump’s sweeping tariff announcement shook global markets, he has now offered most countries a 90-day reprieve—while simultaneously escalating trade tensions with China by imposing harsher penalties. So far, China has responded by matching each tariff hike with its own response.

This week, Mark Leonard welcomes Agathe Demarais, ECFR senior policy fellow and head of its geoeconomics initiative, and Janka Oertel, director of ECFR’s Asia programme, to delve into the complexities of the China-US trade war. Together, they explore the current tariff landscape, the strategies employed by both nations, and the implications for Europe and other external actors. They also discuss China’s aggressive response, potential trade chokepoints and the potential for regional diplomacy.

Who will blink first, Xi Jinping or Trump? Is this a full decoupling of the American and Chinese economies? And what risks and opportunities does the US-China trade war carry for Europe?


This podcast episode was recorded on April 17th 2025.


Bookshelf:


The Most Dangerous Place: A History of the United States in South Asia by Srinath Raghavan

The Year of the Hare by Arto Paasilinna

GeoTechnoGraphy: Mapping Power and Identity in the Digital Age by Samir Saran and Anirban Sarma

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Mark Leonard's World in 30 MinutesBy ECFR

  • 4.6
  • 4.6
  • 4.6
  • 4.6
  • 4.6

4.6

95 ratings


More shows like Mark Leonard's World in 30 Minutes

View all
The Truth of the Matter by CSIS | Center for Strategic and International Studies

The Truth of the Matter

261 Listeners

The Interview by BBC World Service

The Interview

368 Listeners

Asia Geopolitics by The Diplomat

Asia Geopolitics

315 Listeners

Foreign Policy Live by Foreign Policy

Foreign Policy Live

593 Listeners

Russian Roulette by Center for Strategic and International Studies

Russian Roulette

149 Listeners

The President’s Inbox by Council on Foreign Relations

The President’s Inbox

698 Listeners

EU Confidential by POLITICO

EU Confidential

101 Listeners

The Asia Chessboard by Center for Strategic and International Studies

The Asia Chessboard

101 Listeners

Independent Thinking by Chatham House

Independent Thinking

16 Listeners

The Rachman Review by Financial Times

The Rachman Review

140 Listeners

Pekingology by Center for Strategic and International Studies

Pekingology

126 Listeners

Hold Your Fire! by International Crisis Group

Hold Your Fire!

57 Listeners

Global Security Briefing by The Royal United Services Institute

Global Security Briefing

18 Listeners

The Foreign Affairs Interview by Foreign Affairs Magazine

The Foreign Affairs Interview

419 Listeners

The Economics Show by Financial Times

The Economics Show

123 Listeners