Hiya, friends!

Today, Mich and Caroline (and producer Annabelle!) turn their attention to something you’ve all been *demanding* from us: a deep dive into Taylor Swift and Karlie Kloss, and what the hell happened to their friendship. You guys know that commentary around Taylor and Karlie has run rampant for years, so while we won’t get too deeply in the weeds of every single internet hole, consider this episode a wide-ranging pop culture exploration… what is the commentary about Taylor and Karlie? What are the three main theories, and why can’t people stop talking about them? And what does their friendship maybe say… about… us?

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This episode was audio produced by Annabelle Lee and Chelsea Srinivasan.

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