Every product and piece of art you love is a ripoff…and that’s a good thing.

Today, we're talking to Michael Grinich, founder of WorkOS. We discuss why copying great work is a sign of maturity rather than weakness, how the best builders draw inspiration from wildly different industries, and why the most enduring motivation in tech is really just a form of suffering.

All of this right here, right now, on the Modern CTO Podcast!