We all have a story to tell! Unfortunately, most of us want to keep the darkest, and most helpful, parts to ourselves. While this is understandable, there is something helpful to our healing as well as the healing of others when we are able to talk about the difficult things that we have experienced while pointing to the hope on the other side.

My guest today, Jason Sautel, has both lived and modeled this. A retired Oakland Firefighter, Jason has taken the darker parts of his life and used them as a way to challenge and encourage others. Through books, podcasts, and now an upcoming movie, he continues to help others understand that, "Jesus is all You need." This conversation was helpful to me, and I know it will be a help to you as well. 

Learn more about Jason at: jasonsautel.com

Hear my previous interview with jason: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0AYvj6qPRq8Pb4BjmAeMel?si=f19e67953bfb471a

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