Do you remember where you were when Mark Holden dressed up like a clown & proceeded to have a meltdown on Dancing With The Stars? Alex does, because she WAS THERE. Hear what happened behind the scenes and the aftermath of what has to be the most uncomfortable Australian television of all time.

We also cover:

• Jordy's awkward encounter with a MUCH OLDER Hollywood actor
• Children being forced to participate in social media content creation, can we not just let them live?!
• Alex' hot take on the beef between 2 former MAFS contestants
• Monetising pregnancy announcements & life milestones, has capitalism gone too far?

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Jordy & Alex have secured tickets for the Usher concert and delve into potential controversies surrounding him. Are his live shows one giant freak off? Will he be cancelled before landing in Australia and most importantly...WHERE THE HELL IS HIS WIFE?!?!

Alex has found herself in an online stoush with none other than Lizzo herself & we're conviced she's gaslighting us?! Hear the flashback tale that started it all PLUS behind the scenes tea from Lizzo's appearance on The Project and THAT photoshoot in Channel 10.

We talk about why it's RIDIC to defend celebs online and why we've become completely descencitised to drama and trolling.

Following her online feud with Abbie Chatfield, Clementine Ford made the interesting choice to appear on Piers Morgan and it was nothing less than car crash viewing. We discuss the feminist rivalry between Abbie & Clementine and why we sometimes need to admit we are JEALOUS.

Content creator, Jamie Azzopardi is receiving backlash online after Australian Fashion Week and all we can say is the general public LOVE a pile on don't we?! Jordy shares her experience seeing Azzopardi at Melbourne Fashion Festival and the DM Jamie sent her that was really not cool.

As if Alex' week wasn't good enough, she gets to finish off the ep with a 'told you so' moment regarding MAFS contestants, Billy & Sierrah. Spoiler alert: Alex was, and always is right (according to us at least)

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CW: This episode contains discussion of mental health, suicide, sexuality & adult themes. If you or someone you know needs help, please call LIFELINE 13 11 14

It's Alex's birthday (month) and she's had some exciting matches on the apps as a special treat. Have you ever matched with a celebrity? We want to hear about it!

Continuing the birthday joy, Jordy makes Alex relive her trauma from her days working in post-production. So, which was the bigger pressure cooker: MAFS or Masterchef? Listen to find out.

We discuss Jock Zonfrillo's passing, why his wife may have given their story to Channel 7 and question why we feel the need to know things that are absolutely NONE of our business.

We compile a list of jobs that tend to be filled by failed actors, feel free to reach out to make an addition and end the show covering the ongoing Jojo Siwa/Chris Hughes saga. Has Jojo found her match or is she just experiencing her first f**k boy? Only time will tell...

CW: This episode contains discussion of mental health, suicide, sexuality & adult themes. If you or someone you know needs help, please call LIFELINE 13 11 14

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In this ep we recap our chaotic Titanic VR experience, which Alex was absolutely not mentally prepared for. You can't think Titanic without hearing "My Heart Will Go On", but unfortunately all Jordy hears is the years of butchered renditions from her days in singing comp circuts.

Tommy Littles' Comedy Festival Show left Jordy feeling nervy but Alex has bigger fish to fry after LITERALLY inserting herself into another comedian's show the night before.

Jordy feels vindicated after SNL have shown themselves to be as UNFUNNY as she accused them of being weeks ago #justiceforAmyLou. We then move on to questioning why so many people opt for the biggest, birghtest, whitest veneers. Or as we're now calling them, Turkey Teeth.

Alex has some major BTS tea from Love Triangle involving problematic ex-MAFS contestant, Kangaroo Mike, and offers him some sound advice for self improvement.

We finish off by losing any self respect we had left by literally BEGGING you to rate, review and subscribe to TSB. Seriously, pls. We're even giving away 1 x $120 Stan voucher to the best review we receive from now till September 30th 2025.

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Hear about Jordy's dramatic last day on "Neighbours", and how a few chance encounters kept these two agents of chaos in touch over the years.

We somehow get into discussions about cruises, pondering the age-old question: Is it a vacation or just a floating buffet with a side of seasickness? Meanwhile, our quest to snag high-profile guests like Tom Gleeson and Dave Hughes for the podcast continues. Jordy thinks it's a lost cause, Alex still has hope.

Jordy reveals she 'got in trouble' for commenting to the Daily Mail in what could have been the pettyist display from a talent manager EVER.

Commentary on reality TV relationships and breakups ensues with Jordy thinking it is utterly BIZARRE for couples to be collaborating on a social media break up post.

We analyse manipulative behaviors in relationships, particulary those we've seen in the last few weeks of MAFS,

Finally, Alex shares her advice & encourages a healthy dose of self-awareness and reflection for potential reality show contestants.

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• We discuss the reality of being a child star after Jordy watched the Ruby Franke doco on Disney plus. We delve into the psychological impact of child stardom, touching on the struggles faced by young actors like Justin Bieber. Would you let your child pursue fame at the cost of their childhood?

• Reality TV Dynamics: We analyze the legitimacy of relationships on reality shows and the motivations behind contestants' actions. Alex has also been approached by a Tiktoker asking for advice about going on MAFS.

• Is Cameo unethical? We debate on the ethics of charging fans for personalized messages and the exploitation of vulnerable fans. Jordy shares her attempt to get a cameo from Amanda Bynes and the end result was...uncomfortable viewing.

Thanks to our friends at LiSTNR & studio manager Jade Murray

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To merch or not to merch? That is the question of the day...Jordy refuses to produce cheap "tat" that will end up as landfill, while Alex is planning a TEMU order as we speak.

Doing things 'on the cheap' is just one of the criticisms being hurled at former MAFS contestant, Ella May Ding at present, so naturally we dissect her rise through reality TV and why we should all be rejecting hustle culture. #girlboss

It's been reported that 2025 contestant, Carina has spent around $27,000 on hair, makeup and outfits for the season. Is this a smart career investment or a diva moment? Because we respect both tbh. Do you think Channel 9/Endemol should have to foot the bill for the contestants to appear a certain way?

Jordy and Alex discuss the premiere of 'Sam Pang Tonight' and throwback to comments made by Rove on the pod last year about the future of live TV in Australia.

We reminisce on iconic Australian TVCs, where the actors are now and if they're receiving royalties. Jordy shares her experience working on ads as a younger actor and whether she'd ever get back into the game today.

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Studio Producer: Jade Murray

Links:

• Link to article on Ella May Ding
• Listen to our episode with Rove on Apple or Spotify

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To merch or not to merch? That is the question of the day...Jordy refuses to produce cheap "tat" that will end up as landfill, while Alex is planning a TEMU order as we speak.

Doing things 'on the cheap' is just one of the criticisms being hurled at former MAFS contestant, Ella May Ding at present, so naturally we dissect her rise through reality TV and why we should all be rejecting hustle culture. #girlboss

It's been reported that 2025 contestant, Carina has spent around $27,000 on hair, makeup and outfits for the season. Is this a smart career investment or a diva moment? Because we respect both tbh. Do you think Channel 9/Endemol should have to foot the bill for the contestants to appear a certain way?

Jordy and Alex discuss the premiere of 'Sam Pang Tonight' and throwback to comments made by Rove on the pod last year about the future of live TV in Australia.

We reminisce on iconic Australian TVCs, where the actors are now and if they're receiving royalties. Jordy shares her experience working on ads as a younger actor and whether she'd ever get back into the game today.

Follow us on socials @thatsshowbizbaby.pod

Show notes

• Link to article on Ella May Ding
• Listen to our episode with Rove on Apple or Spotify

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This week, Alex reveals her long standing (one-sided) rivalry with Seb Costello. The news comes after the Channel Nine reporter received backlash for chasing a disgraced businessman into a women's restroom and ultimately, leaving the network. Despite starting heavy on Costello chat, this is not an endorsement for the Costello Family.

Jordy shares how she embarrassed herself in front of ex-Matilda's goal keeper, Lydia Williams this week at an IWD event, WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE INFLUENCER INJURIES?!

We highlight the double standards in media, particularly regarding figures like Ben Cousins, who continue to receive platforms despite past violent behavior. Whereas all Meghan Markle has to do is make a rainbow fruit platter and the entire internet is up in arms.

Alex has matched with Tim from MAFS...AGAIN! Our trusty ex-post producer also delivers a MASSIVE spoiler involving Paul & Carina.

We finish off with our take on the so-called legal case against Endemol & Channel 9 and question who we can really trust in this whole fiasco.

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CONTENT WARNING: This episode discusses domestic violence & addiction

Would you humiliate your partner for $500? This is the ethical dilemma Jordy was faced with this week and, of course, needs to discuss with the class. Alex reminds us that humiliation is a kink for some and she's got the (literal) receipts to prove it.

We discuss the enabling behaviors surrounding celebrities, after Jordy watched 'Matthew Perry: A Hollywood Tragedy' on Stan. Just where is the balance of personal responsibility and the industry's role in supporting struggling celebrities? Can we blame producers for doing everything in their power to appease talent? Or do celebs need to take more accountability?

Speaking of accountability, Alex shares her thoughts on who may have been responsible for Adrian getting on MAFS, despite being historically accused of DV. We speculate on how the show will change in 2026 in response to public outcry and online criticism...oh, and an ongoing police investigation after Paul punched a hole in a wall.

But just like COVID, we know that MAFS will adapt and mutate into a stronger variant that will continue to infect the population.

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