The Adoption Files

By Ande Stanley

The Adoption files seeks to provide a place for adoptees and allies to discuss the laws preventing adoptees from accessing their identities, and the emotional and physical challenges adoptees face in ... more

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The podcast currently has 125 episodes available.

The Adoption Files episodes:

March 30, 2023 The Cult-Like Aspects of Adoption Episode 6 with co-host Lynn Grubb and guest Rebecca Dragon
Please join us as we talk with Becca Dragon about her blog article The Cult of Adoption and the cultural adherence to the adoption narrative. Becca is an adoptee rights advocate, a writer and the creator of a series of Tiktok videos. She can be found at:
@GuaranteedHappy AdopteeTM
@mythsmisgivings on FB and IG
www.mythsmisgivingsmadness.wordpress.com
Lynn is The Adopted Genealogist on FB and IG

Mentioned in the show:
https://youtu.be/POVRCjgv0Io Adopted People Have Two Birth Certificates
https://www/tiktok.com/t/ZTRvKVEXd/ Space Dragons on Tiktok
The Dunning-Kruger Effect: An Overestimation of Capability (verywellmind.com)
Why Many People Stubbornly Refuse to Change Their Minds | Psychology Today
Logical Fallacies: 15 Examples of Common Fallacies | Indeed.com
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1h 13min
March 19, 2023 AB 1302, a California bill that would further diminish California adoptee rights
A new bill from Republican representative Lackey would make adoptee access to original birth certificates in California even more difficult- something that seems almost impossible to imagine. Please contact state legislators and the governor to voice your opposition. Below are links to find the legislators and the governor, as well as links to Adoptees United and Bastard Nation. These last two track adoptee rights related legislation on the state and federal levels. https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB1302. https://findyourrep.legislature.ca.gov/. https://www.gov.ca.gov/. https://adopteesunited.org/. http://bastards.org/
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4min
March 13, 2023 Insufficient and deficient; a comment on adoption cruelty
Part of the BITE model of cult like behaviors is the teaching that the family is deficient. I realize in the recording I use the word insufficient. I considered deleting the original version, re-recording and moving on from this embarrassing word substitution. Then I thought about the definitions of each word. Insufficient means not enough, inadequate. Deficient means not having enough of a specified quality or ingredient. Both have at their root the word facets; to do or to make. Both seem relevant to the treatment of our families of origin and to our treatment as adoptees. In this bonus episode, I will talk briefly about my younger adopted brother and his mom.
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6min
March 13, 2023 The Cult-Like Aspects of Adoption Episode 5 Andrea Coates
Please join us as we speak with non-adoptee and Licensed Clinical Social Worker Andrea Coates, who is also a DNA search angel and adoptee advocate. Andrea is a therapist with Greenhouse Counseling.
Adoption Therapy | Counseling at The Green House | Indianapolis Indiana Kentucky Texas Massachusetts Wisconsin (greenhouseindy.com)
Lynn Grubb can be found on social media as The Adopted Genealogist.
The Adoption Experience | a podcast by Lynn Grubb (podbean.com)
Mentioned in the podcast:
Cult Expert Steven Hassan's Freedom of Mind Resource Center
The Baby Scoop Era: Unwed Mothers, Infant Adoption and Forced Surrender: Wilson-Buterbaugh, Karen: 9780692345795: Amazon.com: Books
http://babyscoopera.com
The National Association of Social Workers (NASW) Code of Ethics (uaf.edu)
"I do not think that....the great majority of social workers (especially young, unmarried women) are competent to handle the problem of the unmarried mother and her child. A Masters Degree in Social Work does not always qualify a young woman to deal with the intricate problems of social behavior....an unwed mother must not be rushed into a decisions to give up her baby for adoption until every other avenue has been explored and every other door opened." ( in Solinger 1997) Dr Robert Barrett, the son of Crittenton home co-founder Dr Kate Waller Barrett, who became president of the Florence Crittenton homes after her death in 1925
National Mental Health Hotline | 866-903-3787
The thoughts and opinions expressed in the podcast are just that, thoughts and opinions. The host and their guests are not lawyers, therapists or religious gurus.
Thank you for listening! Please take a moment to rate the show. We are always open to constructive criticism and feedback about the show. The host of The Adoption Files can be reached at [email protected].

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1h 19min
March 03, 2023 Lynn and Ande interview Emma Stevens for episode 4 of The Cult-Like Aspects of Adoption, a therapy episode
Emma Stevens is a U.S. domestic adoptee from birth and has survived layers of trauma that have put her on multiple journeys. She developed the inner strength and courage to surmount the many struggles she faced. Her traumas were born from first being relinquished and then becoming an adoptee who struggled with being forced to wear an impossible mask playing the part of the "good adopted child." Emma is the author of two memoirs. Her work can be found at:
Amazon.com: The Gathering Place: An Adoptee's Story eBook : Stevens, Emma: Kindle Store
Amazon.com: A Fire is Coming: 9798375288994: Stevens, Emma: Books
Lynn Grubb can be found out:
The Adoption Experience | a podcast by Lynn Grubb (podbean.com)
Resources:
Macy-O-Healing-Your-Trauma-CUB-22.pdf
Dr. Janja Lalich, PhD — #igotout
NBCC | National Board for Certified Counselors
Where Adoptee Voices Meet – An Adoptee Centric Connect Group (adopteesconnect)
A Little Bit Culty on Apple Podcasts
The Adoption Experience | a podcast by Lynn Grubb (podbean.com)
Steven Hassan's BITE Model of Authoritarian Control - Freedom of Mind Resource Center
Home (naapunited.org)
Home - Beyond Words Psychological Services (growbeyondwords.com)
RAINN | The nation's largest anti-sexual violence organization While not discussed in the episode, Emma talks in her book about inappropriate and criminal sexual touch committed by her former therapist. If you or someone you know has or is experiencing unwanted or unethical sexual attention from anyone, including a therapist, psychiatrist, or social worker, please reach out for help.
Disclaimer: The host and their guests are not lawyers, therapists or religious gurus. The thoughts and opinions expressed are just that; thoughts and opinions. The host(s) always encourage listeners to learn more about the topics discussed on the podcast, and to think outside of the confines of the adoption narrative.
Thank you for listening!
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1h 5min
March 02, 2023 Realid
The ongoing saga of one adoptee with a foreign birth certificate, issued more than a year after their birth, attempting to obtain a Realid. Tune in for more of this ridiculous tale!
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9min
February 28, 2023 The cult-like Aspects of Adoption Episode 2 pt 2 with guest Greg Gentry
Part 2 of Lynn and Ande's conversation with Greg Gentry.
Mentioned in the show:
Roe v. Wade: Decision, Summary & Background - HISTORY
Read Justice Alito's initial draft abortion opinion which would overturn Roe v. Wade - POLITICO
Judaism and abortion: like any other topic, abortion is one argued about in Judaism. Some hold that it is prohibited, but not until a certain stage of pregnancy. In some cases abortion is allowed only to preserve the life of the mother. The guiding rule is that abortion must be considered on a case by case basis, and not banned outright. You can spend all day reading articles on Judaism and abortion. Here is one short article that hints at the complexities: Judaism and Abortion - The Jewish View of Abortion - Chabad.org
ACE: Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) (cdc.gov)
Genealogy! We did not mention the importance of genealogy in the Bible. We do talk about the erasure of identity and history that is part and parcel of adoption. As contrast, the Scriptures are huge on the importance of family lines. Just take a look at Leviticus! or at how the gospels of Mathew and Luke begin by using the genealogy of Christ to justify his position in Jewish lore. But hey, where we come from is not relevant!
The host is not a lawyer or a therapist. The thoughts and opinions of the host and their guests are just that, thoughts and opinions
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1h 7min
February 19, 2023 The Cult-Like Aspects of Adoption with Lynn Grubb and guest Greg Gentry Pt 1
Please join the hosts as they have a conversation with Greg Gentry about the beliefs and attitudes that inform the adoption narrative, and the almost cult-like belief that people have in that narrative. In this episode and in part 2, we discuss with Greg the (absence of) scriptural support for adoption.
Greg Gentry is a domestic adoptee. He has a Masters in Theological Studies
Lynn Grubb works in the legal field and as a volunteer with CASA. She is known as The Adopted Genealogist on FB and IG and her podcast can be found at:
The Adoption Experience | a podcast by Lynn Grubb (podbean.com)
Mentioned in the show:
ACE (Adverse Childhood Experience) Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) (cdc.gov)
Steven Hassan's BITE Model of Authoritarian Control - Freedom of Mind Resource Center
What is Complex Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (CPTSD)? | CPTSDfoundation.org
Kathryn Joyce | The Child Catchers: Rescue, Trafficking, and the New Gospel of Adoption
Gregs suggested reading:
Paul Boyer, When Time Shall be no More
Bart Ehrman, Jesus, Apocalyptic Prophet of the New Millenium
Albert Schwertzer, The Quest of the Historical Jesus
The host is not a lawyer or a therapist. The thoughts and opinions of the host and their guests are just that, thoughts and opinions.
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52min
February 15, 2023 Intro to The Cultlike Aspects of Adoption with Lynn Grubb and Ande Stanley
Join us as we discuss with our guests the attitudes and beliefs that influence the adoption narrative and the almost cultlike belief that people have in that narrative, no matter what adoptees may be saying about the flaws in adoption. Beliefs influence law, and until we can change the beliefs that underpin the practice of adoption, changing laws will be difficult.
Some resources mentioned in the show:
Podcasts: A Little Bit Culty, Mark Vicente
Steven Hassan's BITE Model of Authoritarian Control - Freedom of Mind Resource Center
Kathryn Joyce | The Child Catchers: Rescue, Trafficking, and the New Gospel of Adoption
Doctor Ramani – Take your life back. (doctor-ramani.com)
The Adoption Experience | a podcast by Lynn Grubb (podbean.com)

The host of the podcast is not a lawyer or a therapist. The thoughts and opinions of the hosts and their guests are just that:thoughts and opinions.
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53min
February 13, 2023 Interview with Marilyn Huff
Marilyn Huff is an ally and advocate for adoptee rights. She is one of the founders of the Facebook group The Search Co-op, and is working on creating a database of the state laws that allow the retention of original birth certificates in adoptions.
Mentioned in the episode:
Debunking Reasons for Birth Certificate Revision:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yAmvXE48P-fL3hz3ZZsWsNhkuCgjx65pDcKDz9YI5ws/edit?usp=sharing
State Code Birth Certificate Revision Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IyCC6wPTfQqtFUkZMsTS-RvR5U23aJyVafHYiLwQqQk/edit?usp=sharing
The Search Co-op: a private Facebook group for people interested in sharing resources to assist individuals to find family lost to adoption or donor conception. Please visit Fb to find the group and apply for membership if interested.
Greg Luce and AdopteeRightsLaw.com
Anti-Adoption: a public Facebook Group
The host is not a lawyer or a therapist. The opinions of the host and their guests are just that, opinions. Everybody has one.
Thank you for listening! Please consider rating the show so that we can be more visible and get the word out to more people about the need to change the laws and the narrative that underpin adoption. Much love, people!
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1h 38min

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