The Adoption Files

The Adoption Files

By Ande StanleyScienceSocial Sciences
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The Adoption Files episodes

  • A discussion of Conceiving Christian America with Guest Lorah Gerald, Chapter Unselection

    Please join Lynn Grubb and me as we talk with Lorah Gerald about the book Conceiving Christian America; Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics by Risa Cromer. Chapter 4 is called Unselection, and discusses the gap between the stated goals of agencies promoting the idea of embryo adoption and the need for marketing what they call less desirable embryos.

    Lorah can be found online as The Adopted Chameleon

    @theadoptedchameleon | Instagram, Facebook, TikTok | Linktree

    Mentioned in the episode;

    Conceiving Christian America: Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics (Anthropologies of American Medicine: Culture, Power, and Practice) - Kindle edition by Cromer, Risa. Religion & Spirituality Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.
    The birth dearth : Wattenberg, Ben J : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
    The opinions of the hosts and their guest are just that, opinions. The hosts are not lawyers or fertility specialists. We are, however, adopted people, and we have opinions.

    Thank you for listening!

    1 hr 36 min
  • Waiting; an Interlude. Conceiving Christian America; Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics by Risa Cromer. A discussion

    Please join Lynn and I as we discuss the Interlude titled Waiting. Lynn prefers the title Delusional, and its hard to argue.

    This is the next episode in a series discussing the book Conceiving Christian America; Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics by Risa Cromer.

    The focus of the book is on reproductive rights and justice. As adopted people, we hope to explore not just these topics but also how the move to erode reproductive rights and to conflate adoption with abortion are illuminated in this book. Any errors are our own.

    Mentioned in the episode:

    Conceiving Christian America: Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics (Anthropologies of American Medicine: Culture, Power, and Practice) - Kindle edition by Cromer, Risa. Religion & Spirituality Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.
    What Is a Loaded Language? (with pictures) (languagehumanities.org)
    Three Identical Strangers (2018) - IMDb
    The opinions of the hosts are their own. The hosts are not lawyers or fertility specialists. Both are adopted people. Lynn is a Baby Scoop Era, Domestic, Transracial adoptee . Ande is a Baby Scoop Era, Transnational, Late Discovery Adoptee and a former Evangelical.

    Thank you for listening!

    48 min
  • A conversation with Donna Jane, a California adoptee

    Please join Donna Jane and I as we talk about adoption, the laws in California, and the right to access to a persons own information.

    Mentioned in the episode:

    California Adoptee access to documents:

    California | Adoptee Rights Law Center
    Please visit Adoptee Rights Law Center and their affiliate, Adoptees United. Please consider supporting them in their efforts to see legislation passed that acknowledges adoptee rights and equality.

    ICWA

    Indian Child Welfare Act (ICWA) | Indian Affairs (bia.gov)
    NICWA
    Home » NICWA


    The opinions of the host and their guest are just that, their opinions. The host is not a lawyer.

    Thank you for listening!

    58 min
  • Support Californias' Senate Bill 1274

    Hi! Please listen to a short appeal for your help in passing California SB1274, a bill that would restore adoptee access to original birth certificates in the state. This is an equal rights issue, as adopted people are the only peoplle in the United States who are legally barred access to their own birth certificates in all but 15 states. We all deserve to know who we are, what our origins are, what our connections are. This bill addresses that one, vital document, allowing adopted people to request and receive a copy at or after the age of 18. Please look below for information on how you can help pass this important bill.

    Equality | California Adoptee Rights (californiaadoptees.org)
    Bill Text - SB-1274 Vital records: adoptees’ birth certificates.
    (2) Facebook
    Thank you!!

    4 min
  • Part 2 of Ch 3 Conceiving Christian America; Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics by Risa Cromer, as discussion

    Please join us for part 2 of Ch 3! Listen as we conclude our discussion of the chapter and become completely derailed by a three pound cat.

    Author Risa Cromer provides an excellent study of the history of the push for embryo personhood and how the language of adoptin is being used by nationalist white evangelical christians to subvert reproductive justice. As adopted people, Lynn and I explore what this concept of embryo adoption means to us and how scary this all is to contemplate. The book is timely, as reproductive rights continue to be eroded, and the transfer of children from family to strangers is being pushed even harder by adoption advocates.

    Plus, theres a cat.

    Mentioned in the episode:

    Conceiving Christian America: Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics (Anthropologies of American Medicine: Culture, Power, and Practice) - Kindle edition by Cromer, Risa. Religion & Spirituality Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.
    Birthrates are declining globally – here's why it matters | World Economic Forum (weforum.org)
    The opinions of the hosts are just that, their opinions. The hosts are not lawyers, therapists, or fertility specialists. They are two adopted people; one white, late-discovery, international, non-binary and bisexual; the other transracial, domestic, cishet. Both old enough to (mostly) know better. Thank you for listening!

    37 min
  • Conceiving Christian America: Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics by Risa Cromer, Ch 3. Or, as Lynn calls it These Gifts are never Free

    Please join Lynn Grubb and I as we discuss Chapter 3 of the book Conceiving Christian America; Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics by Risa Cromer. While the very well done research in this book centers reproductive politics and white nationalist evangelical christianity use of personhood ideology as regards frozen embryos, Lynn and I talk about the topic primarily through the lens of adopted people ourselves.

    This is part 1 of a 2 part episode, primarily because I havent learned how this recording suite functions yet.

    Mentioned in the episode:

    Conceiving Christian America: Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics (Anthropologies of American Medicine: Culture, Power, and Practice) - Kindle edition by Cromer, Risa. Religion & Spirituality Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.
    Home - Saving Our Sisters (savingoursistersadoption.org)
    https://www.reddit.com/r/SelfCareCharts/comments/g9j8h0/steven_hassan_developed_the_bite_model_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

    The opinions of the hosts are just that, their opinions. The host is not a lawyer, therapist, or fertility specialist.

    Please check out what I am encouraging people to consider Part 2 of the discussion of chapter 3, which will be published shortly after this episode goes up. We are a work in progress! Thank you for you patience. Thanks for listening!

    54 min
  • Embryo Saviorism : Ch 2 Conceiving Christian America

    Please join Lynn and I as we talk about chapter 2 of Conceiving Christian America; Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics by Risa Cromer, along with a brief discussion of whats happening in Texas.

    Mentioned in the episode

    Conceiving Christian America (nyupress.org)The Child Catchers: Rescue, Trafficking, and the New Gospel of Adoption: Joyce, Kathryn: 9781586489427: Amazon.com: BooksRelinquished: The Politics of Adoption and the Privilege of American Motherhood: Sisson, Gretchen: 9781250286772: Amazon.com: BooksReview: THE VIOLENCE OF FAMILY FORMATION: ENSLAVED FAMILIES AND REPRODUCTIVE LABOR IN THE MARKETPLACE on JSTOR'Orphan Trains' Brought Homeless NYC Children to Work On Farms Out West | HISTORYHistorian: American Indian Boarding Schools and Their Impact | TIMEIndian Child Welfare Act (ICWA) | Indian Affairs (bia.gov)Throwback Tulsa: Supreme Court reverses 'Baby Veronica' decision 10 years ago today (tulsaworld.com)Indian Child Welfare Act (ICWA) (Haaland v. Brackeen) - Native American Rights Fund (narf.org)This Land | Crooked Media

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/parenting/inside-texas-manipulative-adoption-marketing-campaign-that-targets-young-women-and-teen-girls/ar-BB1kicOr?ocid=socialshare

    The hosts approach the book and any supplemental materials from the perspective of adopted people, as a female identifying person and a non-binary person, as a straight person and as a bisexual person, as a transracial domestic adoptee, and as a same race white adoptee. Any errors in presenting the authors material is that of the hosts. The hosts opinions are their own.

    Thank you for listening! We hope you will join us for the next episode in the series. Also, stay tuned for a follow up interview on the situation with efforts to pass a clean bill in Virginia, and a series of interviews with California adoptees seeking to educate Californians on the need for equal rights to original birth documents in their state.


    1 hr 12 min
  • Claiming Adoption: Conceiving Christian America: Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics

    Please join Lynn and I as we discuss the interlude Claiming Adoption from Conceiving Christian America; Embryo Adoptino and Reproductive Politics by Risa Cromer. We begin todays episode with a discussion of Nightlight Adoptions article on five unique aspects of snowflake adoption.

    Mentioned in the show:

    Conceiving Christian America (Anthropologies of American Medicine: Culture, Power, and Practice) by Cromer, Risa: Fine (2023) | GF Books, Inc. (abebooks.com)
    unique benefits (nightlight.org)
    Topic no. 607, Adoption credit and adoption assistance programs | Internal Revenue Service (irs.gov)
    While we recognize that the author of the book is speaking from a reproductive justice perspective, the hosts speak primarily from the perspective of adoptee rights. We acknowledge that our thoughts and opinions may diverge from the focus of the book at various points. We agree that reprodcutive rights are under attack and support the goal of the author to educate the public on the dangers. We also wish to educate the public on the harms that embryo gestation by genetic strangers causes to any person that may result. We object to the fertility and adoption industrys attempts to co-opt adoption and adoptees to further their political and financial and religious ambitions.

    The opiniions of the hosts are just that, their opinions. The hosts are not lawyers or fertility specialists.

    Thank you for listening! We welcome respectful feedback.

    44 min
  • Chapter 1 Life After IVF, Conceiving Christian America; Embryo Adotion and Reproductive Politics

    Please join Lynn Grubb and I as we discuss Chapter 1 of Conceiving Christian America; Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics by Risa Cromer, and the intersection with the impact on adoptees. While embryo adoption is not legally adoption, but rather a property transfer, the fertility industry deliberately uses the language of adoption to obscure this fact.

    Lynn can be found online as The Adopted Genealogist, and is the President of the Adoptee Rights Coalition.

    Home | ARC (adopteerightscoalition.com)
    Ande Stanley is a Late-Discovery, transnational, same race adopted person.

    Mentioned in the show:

    Conceiving Christian America; Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics by Risa Cromer

    Conceiving Christian America: Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics (Anthropologies of American Medicine: Culture, Power, and Practice) - Kindle edition by Cromer, Risa. Religion & Spirituality Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.
    Parents welcome twins from embryos frozen 30 years ago | CNN
    The Family Preservation Project
    The Family Preservation Project – Where Moms and Resources Meet
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/interview-with-katie-nelson-burns-of-the/id1598023322?i=1000647934005

    There are many articles out there on the lack of regulation and oversight for the ART industry. Here is just one that popped up in a Google search:

    Navigating the Ethical and Legal Maze of IVF: A Closer Look at Industry Challenges – Health Law & Policy Brief (healthlawpolicy.org)
    The opinions of the host and the co-host are just that, our opinions. The host is not a lawyer,or a fertility specialist.

    1 hr 7 min
  • What we call things matters: Conceiving Christian America; Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics Episode 3

    Please join us as we discuss Interlude "Coming to Terms" of the book Conceiving Christian America: Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics by Risa Cromer. In this episode, we talk about the debate over semantics that occurred at the beginning of the embryo "adoption" movement, and how it continues to shape peoples perspectives today.

    Mentioned in the show:
    Conceiving Christian America: Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics by Risa Cromer
    Conceiving Christian America: Embryo Adoption and Reproductive Politics (Anthropologies of American Medicine: Culture, Power, and Practice) - Kindle edition by Cromer, Risa. Religion & Spirituality Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.
    PCUSA: https://www.pcusa.org/news/2022/5/17/reproductive-justice-and-pcusa/
    National Embryo Donation Center:
    National Embryo Donation Center
    Concerned United Birthparents:
    Bethany Christian Services:
    Concerned United Birthparents
    Saving our Sisters:
    Home - Saving Our Sisters (savingoursistersadoption.org)
    Bethany Christian Services | Bethany
    Discourse or semantic prosody:
    Semantic prosody - Wikipedia
    Ethnography:
    Ethnography | Definition, Types, Examples, & Facts | Britannica
    Semantics:
    Semantics Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
    Kathryn Joyce, The Child Catchers:
    The Child Catchers: Rescue, Trafficking, and the New Gospel of Adoption: Joyce, Kathryn: 9781586489427: Amazon.com: Books
    Polite Adoption Language (PAL) Language developed by the adoption industry to make severing a child from family more palatable. Adopted people who object to the use of PAL are often reprimanded by people with a vested interest in the continuance of the system.
    Thank you for listening to the podcast!
    Any errors in relating the contents of the book are the hosts own. The opinions of the host and their guest are just that, their opinions. The host is not a lawyer, a therpaist or a fertility specialist.


    1 hr 4 min

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