The No Film School Podcast

The AI Doc Breakdown — Filmmaking in the Age of Uncertainty


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In this episode, No Film School host GG Hawkins speaks with director Charlie Tyrell and editors Davis Coombe and Daysha Broadway about The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist. The conversation explores how the team shaped an essay-driven documentary around AI, parenting, authorship, and uncertainty, while also breaking down the collaborative editorial process, the ethics of making a film in real time about a rapidly changing subject, and the analog craft choices that gave the project its tactile visual identity.

In this episode, No Film School's GG Hawkins and guests discuss...

  • How The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist uses a filmmaker’s journey into impending parenthood as a narrative device for exploring AI anxiety and optimism

  • Why the team chose an essay-documentary structure while still grounding the film in Daniel Roher’s on-camera perspective

  • The challenges of shaping a documentary whose subject kept changing during production as AI news evolved in real time

  • How Charlie Tyrell, Davis Coombe, and Daysha Broadway each found their way into filmmaking and documentary storytelling

  • The creative and ethical complications of having a co-director also function as a subject within the film

  • How the filmmakers balanced accessibility, complexity, and emotional honesty while making a movie about a massive technological shift

  • The editorial collaboration behind the film, including remote workflows, shared creative decision-making, and leaving ego at the door

  • Why the team intentionally avoided using AI in the film’s creative workflow

  • How Premiere Pro Productions, transcription tools, Blender, After Effects, Dragonframe, stop-motion builds, and practical effects supported the film’s handmade aesthetic

  • Where the guests currently land on the spectrum between AI optimism and AI anxiety as working filmmakers and editors

  • Why the guests believe the biggest question is not just what AI can do, but how people choose to use it

    Memorable Quotes:

    • “It actively wrestles with it in real time, both thematically and in the way that it was made.”

    • “Everyone kind of just left their ego at the door and showed up to do the work.”

    • “Filmmaking only brings suffering.”

    • “I don't feel like AI is the big bad. To me, the people are the big bad.”

      Guests:

      • Charlie Tyrell

      • Davis Coombe

      • Daysha Broadway

        Resources:

        • The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist

        • Synopsis: From the Academy Award-winning filmmakers behind Everything Everywhere All at Once and Navalny, a father-to-be tries to figure out what is happening with all this AI insanity. The AI Doc: Or How I Became an Apocaloptimist is a hand-made, eye-opening documentary about the most powerful technology humanity has ever created and what’s at stake if we get it wrong.

        • For resources and ways to join the apocaloptimist community, visit theaidocgetinvolved.com

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