The AIP Summit Podcast

By Jaime Hartman & Marie-Noelle MarquisAlternative Health Health & Fitness Nutrition Education Self-Improvement

The AIP Summit Podcast episodes

October 0553: Healing Starts with Clarity featuring Jennifer Franchak
Jennifer Franchak, functional nutritionist and AIP Certified Coach, returns to the podcast for her first interview appearance after featuring her presentation back in episode 38. This time, Jennifer and Jaime talk about a problem more and more women with autoimmune disease are running into: having access to more health information than ever before, and still not feeling any clearer about what actually matters for their own body. Jennifer shares what she sees in her practice with women who have already tried nearly everything, why gathering more information isn't the same as gaining clarity, and how her new workshop, the Flare-Up Freedom Blueprint, helps women connect the pieces of their own autoimmune puzzle.
In This Episode
02:03 – Revisiting episode 38's 5R framework (remove, replace, reinoculate, repair, rebalance) and how it shows up behind the scenes in Jennifer's client work today
05:14 – Why reframing flares as information instead of betrayal shifts clients from fear to curiosity
08:05 – The double-edged sword of having more health information than ever, and why it doesn't always translate to clarity
10:20 – What Jennifer has learned from women who have already tried "all of the things" and are still stuck
13:48 – For coaches and practitioners: the difference between gathering information and gathering clarity, and teaching clients to spot their own patterns
17:07 – Inside the Flare-Up Freedom Blueprint: what the live 90-minute workshop covers and why Jennifer built it as an interactive experience instead of a self-paced course
20:03 – What an already AIP-savvy listener might still be missing
22:11 – Workshop logistics: live October 14th, registration closes October 11th, recording included if you can't attend live
23:58 – Jennifer's one takeaway for anyone feeling flare-related information overload: stop and observe before you react
25:54 – Where to find Jennifer and her resources
About Jennifer
Jennifer Franchak is a functional nutritionist and AIP Certified Coach who helps women with autoimmune disease move from unpredictable flare-ups to a clearer understanding of their own patterns. Through her private program, Autoimmune Harmony, and her new live workshop, the Flare-Up Freedom Blueprint, she guides clients through a personalized framework for identifying what's actually driving their symptoms rather than following a generic protocol.
See Jennifer's profile on the AIP Certified Coach directory
Resources Mentioned
Episode 38: Decoding Gut-Driven Autoimmune Flares
Flare-Up Freedom Blueprint workshop (live October 14th, registration closes October 11th)
Jennifer's website: jenniferfranchak.com
Jennifer's YouTube channel
30 min
September 2152: When Reintroduction Isn't Linear - Laurane Chemenda's Story
Laurane Chemenda returns to walk listeners through her reintroduction journey, now five years in and still evolving. She talks candidly about what has made the process take as long as it has, the moment a reintroduction attempt sent her a clear signal, how she distinguishes psychological hesitation from genuine physiological caution, and what she'd tell someone who feels discouraged that their own reintroduction isn't following a tidy timeline. The conversation closes with a look at Bien-être Auto-immune, the French-language AIP platform and community Laurane founded.
In This Episode
(01:30) Laurane's update since Episode 19: expecting her third child, and an expanding focus on the French AIP community
(03:25) What her reintroduction process has actually looked like over five years: starting strict and methodical, then loosening into a more intuitive approach
(09:17) The reintroduction moment that became a wake-up call, and what it did and did not affect
(12:47) Life circumstances that slowed the process, including two pregnancies and postpartum caution, and how she distinguishes a true reaction from psychological hesitation after years of reintroducing
(15:17) Her experience with gluten specifically, including genetic marker testing and stool testing results, and why she has chosen not to pursue reintroducing it
(21:25) What she wishes she'd known at the start about rigidity versus flexibility in the reintroduction process, and her perspective on Modified AIP and how she uses it with clients today
(24:41) Reassurance for listeners who feel anxious that their own reintroduction is taking longer than expected
(25:54) Her signature coaching advice: the importance of community and support throughout the AIP journey
(26:46) An introduction to Bien-être Auto-immune, her French-language platform, community, and coach training program
About Laurane Chemenda
Laurane Chemenda is an AIP Certified Coach (see her profile on the AIP Certified Coach Directory). She healed from ankylosing spondylitis using a combination of functional medicine and the autoimmune protocol, and now works with clients navigating autoimmune conditions. She is the founder of Bien-être Auto-immune, the first French-language platform dedicated to a functional, AIP-based approach to autoimmune health.
Resources Mentioned
Episode 19: Laurane's AIP Summit presentation and healing story
Bien-être Auto-immune website
Bien-être Auto-immune on Instagram

The AIP Summit Podcast is a Gutsy By Nature production. Content presented is for informational purposes only and is not intended to be a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.
32 min
September 0751: Movement Is Medicine - Training Smart with Autoimmune Disease featuring Lana Buettner
This episode features audio from Lana Buettner's presentation at the 7th Annual AIP Summit, "The Autoimmune Athlete: Empowered Movement." Lana, a board certified functional health coach and AIP Certified Coach living with ankylosing spondylitis, shares her journey from Division I college tennis to competitive padel, and breaks down how to use movement as a therapeutic tool, including during flares, without overtraining.
Timestamps:
00:27 – Episode preview plus two announcements (AIP Certified Coach training enrollment, Hope Journey Walk)
05:28 – Lana's background and credentials
06:39 – Her athletic journey: tennis at University of Oregon to ankylosing spondylitis diagnosis
08:43 – Transition to competitive padel and the German national team
09:36 – Presentation roadmap
09:36 – Why movement matters for autoimmune health
12:00 – Movement as an epigenetic signal
13:16 – Defining movement vs. exercise; consistency, mindfulness, joy
15:31 – Redefining what it means to be an "athlete"
16:50 – Exercise guidelines and recommended activity types
18:55 – Three categories of training: mobility, strength, cardio
22:27 – How to move during an active flare
24:33 – Warning signs of overtraining
27:54 – Learning your personal threshold and feedback loops
28:59 – Planning a weekly training schedule
28:59 – AIP considerations for athletes: underfueling, carbs, protein, training volume, electrolytes
31:53 – Morning journal prompts to guide daily training decisions
34:40 – Recovery: sleep, rest days, active recovery
36:10 – Stress management's role in recovery
37:10 – Anti-inflammatory nutrition and hydration for recovery
38:09 – Targeted recovery practices: contrast showers, compression wear, foam rolling, supplements
39:30 – Closing message
Mentioned in this episode:
aipcertified.com (Coach Practitioner training enrollment)
give.autoimmune.org/teamaip2026 (Hope Journey Walk)
aipsummit.com (fall encore agenda)
Lana Buettner's AIP Certified Coach Directory profile
Episode 38: Decoding Gut Driven Flares
Episode 44: The Evidence for Mindset and Health Outcomes
44 min
August 3150: Connection Is the Thread - 50 Episodes in Review
To celebrate a major milestone, Jaime and Marie-Noelle look back at the first 50 episodes of the AIP Summit Podcast and share eight moments that resonated with them most, from sustainability and travel to weight stigma, rare diagnoses, perfectionism, creativity, mental health, and our connection to the natural world.

In This Episode
(00:05) Welcome and mission recap
(01:25) Announcements: Urban AIP's Labor Day sale, the Autoimmune Association Hope Journey Walk in DC, and the next AIP Certified Coach Practitioner Training cohort
(04:07) Highlight 1: Sustainability and the abundance mindset (from Episode 46)
(08:49) Highlight 2: Travel mindset with Dixie Mehrens, plus new information on flying with medically necessary food (from Episode 13)
(14:47) Highlight 3: Weight stigma with Dr. Angela Grace (from Episode 26)
(19:47) Highlight 4: A rare diagnosis story with Crecy Ragan (from Episode 23)
(24:00) Highlight 5: Letting go of perfection with Marcia Murata (from Episode 48)
(26:57) Highlight 6: Creative brains and chronic illness with Andrea Rossi (from Episode 40)
(33:10) Highlight 7: Mental health and autoimmune disease with Bianca Clarke (from Episode 17)
(37:41) Highlight 8: The healing power of nature and awe (from Episode 39)
(42:25) Closing thoughts

Announcements
Urban AIP Labor Day Sale: New seasonal dishes are live, with an additional 15% off during the Labor Day sale (up to 25% off total depending on box size). Use code LABORDAY2026 at checkout. Visit UrbanAIP.com to learn more.
Autoimmune Association Hope Journey Walk (DC): Urban AIP is catering breakfast before the DC walk this year. Join in person or virtually, and consider joining or donating to Team AIP. Learn more about the Hope Journey Walk.
AIP Certified Coach Practitioner Training Program: Co-taught by Jaime Hartman and Mickey Trescott, the next session begins September 21st, with enrollment opening September 2nd. Open to health coaches, nutritionists, therapists, nurses, medical doctors, and anyone working with autoimmune clients. Learn more at aipcertified.com.

Featured Moments and Original Episodes
If any of these moments resonate, go back and listen to the full original conversations:
Episode 46 — Making the Elimination Phase Sustainable
Episode 13 — Traveling and the Autoimmune Protocol, featuring a presentation from Dixie Mehrens (originally from the 2021 AIP Summit)
Episode 26 — AIP & Calorie Counting, featuring a presentation from Dr. Angela Grace on weight stigma (originally from the 2022 AIP Summit)
Episode 23 — Story of Healing with Hashimoto's and Alpha-Gal Syndrome, with guest Crecy Ragan
Episode 48 — Stop Chasing the Perfect Diet, with guest Marcia Murata
Episode 40 — Why Creatives Get Sick and What to Do About It, with guest Andrea Rossi
Episode 17 — Mental Health and Autoimmune Disease, with guest Bianca Clarke
Episode 39 — The Healing Power of Nature
45 min
August 1749: Scleroderma and the AIP Spectrum - A Client Healing Story with Sarah Brookes
Sarah Brookes joins Jaime and Marie-Noelle to unpack the idea of AIP as a spectrum rather than an all-or-nothing protocol, walk through a client's nine-month journey reversing scleroderma symptoms through diet alone, and share her own six-month reintroduction struggle and what finally helped her through it. The episode closes with Sarah's take on when AIP is not the right starting point and why nervous system regulation often needs to come first.
View Sarah's profile on the AIP Certified Coach Directory
Topics covered
How Sarah's approach to client care has evolved since becoming an AIP Certified Coach in 2017
Introducing AIP as a spectrum, not all-or-nothing
Meet the client: multiple diagnoses, multiple medications, and a request to work entirely through diet
Going all in: full elimination AIP, no restaurants, no exceptions, even on a three-week trip
The results after nine months: four stone lost, medications reduced, scleroderma patches faded
What this case teaches coaches about treating conditions that aren't primarily gut-driven
Sarah's own reintroduction story and why it took her over six months
The strategic thinking behind reintroducing individual ingredients versus whole dishes
What changed: Jan's AIP retreat and the shift from scrambling to stability
Is AIP right for everyone? When Sarah steers clients toward a different starting point
Sarah's Thyroid Energy Essentials group program and free Thyroid Energy Blueprint masterclass
Resources Mentioned:
AIP Retreats in the South of France
Thyroid Energy Essentials (12-week group coaching program)
Free thyroid labs guide (available via email signup)
39 min
August 0348: Stop Chasing the Perfect Diet - Marcia Murata
AIP Certified Coach and bioindividual nutritionist Marcia Murata Cesario joins Jaime and Marie-Noelle to explore how bioindividuality shapes AIP coaching. Marcia shares the family story that led her into AIP work, then walks through a detailed case study of a client managing rheumatoid arthritis, psoriasis, and Sjögren's simultaneously. The conversation moves into the biochemistry behind bioindividual reactions (histamines, salicylates, oxalates) and closes with Marcia's coaching philosophy of meeting clients where they are rather than chasing a "perfect" AIP diet.
In this episode
Marcia's path into AIP coaching, sparked by her daughter's early diagnosis
How her registered holistic nutrition training complements AIP coaching
Client case study: where this client started (RA, migraines, psoriasis, chronic pain)
Elimination phase: an "all at once" approach and why lifestyle changes waited
Early wins: reduced bloating, then migraines resolving within three weeks
Why the oldest psoriasis lesions are often the last to clear (tissue resident memory T cells, explained with a grass-trail analogy)
Reintroduction process, remaining trigger foods, and the client's eventual "graduation"
Defining bioindividuality: the work of Dr. Roger Williams and Julie Matthews
How bioindividuality changes the pacing of reintroduction
Same diagnosis, opposite reactions: a real family example
Marcia's coaching philosophy: helping clients stop chasing the perfect diet
Meeting clients halfway, even when they order food or hate cooking
Where to find and work with Marcia

About the guest
Marcia Murata Cesario is an AIP Certified Coach and bioindividual nutritionist based in Canada. Her path into AIP began after her daughter was diagnosed with psoriasis and Crohn's disease as an infant. She's listed in both the AIP Certified Coach Directory and the BioIndividual Nutrition Directory, and shares educational content on Instagram.
Resource Links
Marcia's Instagram: @marciabionutrition
AIP Certified Coach Directory listing
40 min
July 2047: Gut Health, AIP, and the Case for Food Freedom with Emilie Davis
In this episode, Marie-Noelle sits down with Emilie Davis, an AIP Certified Coach and gut health nutritionist based in Salt Lake City. Emilie's own path started with years of chronic illness and an eventual autoimmune diagnosis, and it's shaped a practice that puts gut health testing at the center of her work with clients. This conversation is especially useful for AIP Certified Coaches looking to deepen their functional testing knowledge, as well as anyone doing AIP on their own who feels like they've hit a wall.
In this episode
Emilie's health journey, from chronic Epstein-Barr through an eventual autoimmune diagnosis, and how it led her to nutrition, naturopathic medicine, and eventually AIP
How gut health became the foundation of her practice and why nutrition alone often isn't enough
What a gut health lens adds when someone is doing AIP faithfully and still feels stuck
The GI map functional stool test explained, and how it differs from standard bloodwork at a doctor's visit
What "food freedom" looks like in practice, and helping clients rebuild trust with food
Emilie's signature coaching advice: elimination is a tool, not a permanent destination
Reframing symptoms as information rather than failure, including a real client example involving reintroduction and medication timing
Why quantity matters just as much as which foods you reintroduce
About Emilie Davis
Emilie holds a Master of Science in Nutrition from the National University of Natural Medicine and has been in practice for seven years as an AIP Certified Coach. Her work centers on the intersection of gut health and autoimmune disease, using comprehensive functional stool testing to guide personalized nutrition and treatment plans through her Gut Restore program.
Emilie's profile on the AIP Certified Coach Directory
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1 hr 1 min
July 0646: Making the Elimination Phase Sustainable
In this episode, AIP Certified Coaches Jaime Hartman and Marie-Noelle Marquis answer a listener question that gets at something many people feel but don't say out loud: do you really have to do AIP every single day? Can you give yourself weekends off? The short answer is yes, the elimination phase requires full adherence to work. But the more important conversation is about understanding why, and then building the conditions that actually make it possible to sustain.
Key Points Covered
What full adherence means during the elimination phase of both core AIP and modified AIP, and why both frameworks require the same level of commitment even though modified AIP gives you more foods to choose from
Why the lifestyle branches of AIP (sleep, movement, stress management, time in nature, social connection) allow for more day-to-day flexibility than the dietary portion
How the elimination phase works as a physiological reset: removing potential triggers long enough for inflammation to calm and symptoms to shift, so that the reintroduction phase can give you reliable information
Why "doing AIP five or six days a week" isn't almost AIP, it's a different thing entirely, and why neutral language (full adherence, not "cheating" or "being good") matters when thinking about this
How the urge to take weekends off is useful information, not a character flaw, and how to use it to identify the root cause of what's making your current approach unsustainable
Common sustainability gaps and their root causes: food boredom, social pressure, feeling deprived rather than empowered, lack of planning, and unsupportive home environments
Why helping clients identify their specific sustainability gap is more valuable than lecturing them on compliance, and how to use a client's desire for a "cheat day" as a coaching opportunity
Practical strategies for making full adherence sustainable: batch cooking and freezer stocking, building an AIP social toolkit for navigating restaurants and gatherings, finding abundance in the protocol's yes list, setting a defined endpoint, and leaning into the AIP community for accountability
How cravings can shift over time as the microbiome changes, and why a spirit of detachment (rather than "white-knuckling") can help with foods you're grieving during elimination
Resources Mentioned
Episode 1: The ABCs of AIP
Episode 6: Answering Common Questions About AIP
Episode 43: Our Conversation with Mickey Trescott
Freezer Cooking for the Paleo AIP, edited by Jaime Hartman
Urban AIP (AIP-compliant meal delivery)
Autoimmune Wellness (Mickey Trescott's website)
The New Autoimmune Protocolby Mickey Trescott
AIP Certified Coach directory
24 min
June 2245: Story of Healing with Hashimoto's as a New Mum - Monica Harris
From Survival Mode to Dancing in the Living Room
Monica Harris is a degree-qualified naturopath in Australia with more than 20 years of clinical experience. Despite her training, she didn't see her own Hashimoto's coming. Diagnosed while pregnant and working a high-pressure corporate job, Monica found herself in what she describes as survival mode as a new mother, until AIP and the support of an AIP Certified Coach changed everything. Within three weeks of starting AIP, every symptom she was tracking improved. Two months in, her thyroid antibodies dropped from over 1,000 to 297.
In this episode, Jaime sits down with Monica (recorded solo due to scheduling conflicts) to talk about:
What it was like to be a healthcare professional on the patient side of a chronic illness diagnosis
The day-to-day reality of "survival mode" fatigue as a new mom with undiagnosed Hashimoto's
How quickly her symptoms and antibody levels shifted once she started AIP
What coaching support actually looked like for her, including the moments her coach had to be direct with her
How she made AIP work practically with a young child at home (without the social isolation she expected)
A naturopath's view on why "your labs are normal" doesn't always mean you feel normal, including the TSH/T4/T3/reverse T3 picture
Why she pursued her AIP Certified Coach credential and built a 12-week program specifically for mothers with Hashimoto's
See Monica's profile in The AIP Certified Coach Directory
Book a Hashimoto's Assessment Call with Monica
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36 min
June 0844: The Evidence for Mindset and Health Outcomes
In this episode, we share the audio from a presentation delivered at the 7th Annual AIP Summit by Heba Saleh, an AIP Certified Coach, culinary nutrition educator, yoga teacher, and personal trainer. Her presentation, The Evidence for Mindset and Health Outcomes and Physical Healing, draws on research in psychoneuroimmunology, neuroplasticity, and behavioral science to make the case that our beliefs, thoughts, and daily practices can directly influence immune function, inflammation levels, and our capacity to heal.
About Heba Saleh
Heba Saleh is a culinary nutrition educator, yoga teacher, personal trainer, and AIP Certified Coach. She came to this work through her own healing journey with Hashimoto's and postpartum depression. She is the creator of the Eight Moments mindset journal and the Growth Mindset Groups accountability program, and is launching a health-focused program called Health Starter in 2026. You can find her in the AIP Certified Coach Directory.
About the 7th Annual AIP Summit Encore
The full video of Heba's presentation -- including her slides and the animated butterfly video -- will be rebroadcast during the free Summer Encore, June 17-21. Head to aipsummit.com for the full agenda. If you're listening after June 21st, visit the site for information on the next Encore or live Summit. For ongoing access to the full archives, consider becoming an AIP Summit community member.
Also featuring audio from the 7th Annual AIP Summit - Episode 38: The Gut-Immune Connection and How to Decode Your Flare
Resources Mentioned
Mind Over Medicine by Dr. Lissa Rankin
Mindset by Carol Dweck
Research by Dr. Alia Crum (Stanford) on stress as enhancing
Research by Dr. Daniel Amen on neuroplasticity
Eight Moments Journal by Heba Saleh
Growth Mindset Groups (Heba's accountability program)
Health Starter program (launching 2026)
58 min