The AIP Summit Podcast

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June 0844: The Evidence for Mindset and Health Outcomes
In this episode, we share the audio from a presentation delivered at the 7th Annual AIP Summit by Heba Saleh, an AIP Certified Coach, culinary nutrition educator, yoga teacher, and personal trainer. Her presentation, The Evidence for Mindset and Health Outcomes and Physical Healing, draws on research in psychoneuroimmunology, neuroplasticity, and behavioral science to make the case that our beliefs, thoughts, and daily practices can directly influence immune function, inflammation levels, and our capacity to heal.
About Heba Saleh
Heba Saleh is a culinary nutrition educator, yoga teacher, personal trainer, and AIP Certified Coach. She came to this work through her own healing journey with Hashimoto's and postpartum depression. She is the creator of the Eight Moments mindset journal and the Growth Mindset Groups accountability program, and is launching a health-focused program called Health Starter in 2026. You can find her in the AIP Certified Coach Directory.
About the 7th Annual AIP Summit Encore
The full video of Heba's presentation -- including her slides and the animated butterfly video -- will be rebroadcast during the free Summer Encore, June 17-21. Head to aipsummit.com for the full agenda. If you're listening after June 21st, visit the site for information on the next Encore or live Summit. For ongoing access to the full archives, consider becoming an AIP Summit community member.
Also featuring audio from the 7th Annual AIP Summit - Episode 38: The Gut-Immune Connection and How to Decode Your Flare
Resources Mentioned
Mind Over Medicine by Dr. Lissa Rankin
Mindset by Carol Dweck
Research by Dr. Alia Crum (Stanford) on stress as enhancing
Research by Dr. Daniel Amen on neuroplasticity
Eight Moments Journal by Heba Saleh
Growth Mindset Groups (Heba's accountability program)
Health Starter program (launching 2026)
58 min
May 2543: Mickey Trescott Returns: The New Autoimmune Protocol
In this episode, Jaime and Marie-Noelle welcome back Mickey Trescott — founder of Autoimmune Wellness, co-creator of the AIP Certified Coach Practitioner Training Program, and one of the pioneers of the Autoimmune Protocol. Mickey joins us to talk about her brand new book, The New Autoimmune Protocol, the first comprehensive update to the protocol since its inception.
If you haven't listened to Episode 2, where Mickey first joined us to discuss the origins of AIP, the AIP Certified Coach Program, and where she saw the protocol heading, we encourage you to go back and check it out.
What we cover in this episode:
How the book came together as the culmination of years of work updating AIP, including the transition to Modified AIP that Mickey and the AIP Certified Coach community have been implementing since 2023
Why the Transition Phase is now an official, fully developed phase of the protocol with a five-step framework, including baseline tracking, developing your "why," a confidence assessment, selecting a start date, and preparing for elimination
What the growing body of AIP research reveals — eight published studies now exist across IBD (Crohn's and ulcerative colitis), Hashimoto's thyroiditis, and rheumatoid arthritis, with consistent patterns of meaningful improvement in approximately three out of four people who implement the elimination phase
Why Modified AIP is now Mickey's recommended starting point for most people, and how adding foods like rice, pseudo grains, seeds, and ghee solves real-world barriers around affordability, convenience, and sustainability
How the book is designed to serve both self-guided AIP practitioners and AIP Certified Coaches using it as a tool in their practice — and where a coach's skills are best put to use
The exciting news on the medical and research frontier, including the NIH NOURISH Autoimmunity Challenge, Capitol Hill advocacy, and why Mickey expects an explosion of new AIP research in the coming years
Mickey's closing message: healing doesn't end in the elimination phase — and what sustainable, long-term healing through AIP actually looks like
Mentioned in this episode:
The New Autoimmune Protocol by Mickey Trescott — available wherever books are sold, including internationally and on Kindle (purchase here)
The Autoimmune Paleo Cookbook by Mickey Trescott (purchase here)
Mickey's website and free resources: theautoimmuneprotocol.com
Mickey on social media: @mickeytrescott
AIP Certified Coach Practitioner Training Program: aipcertified.com
Urban AIP — featuring recipes from The New Autoimmune Protocol on their spring/summer menu. Use code NEWAIP at checkout for 15% off meals featuring Mickey's recipes: urbanaip.com
Episode 2 of the AIP Summit Podcast with Mickey Trescott
About Mickey Trescott:
Mickey Trescott is an author, educator, and one of the pioneers of the Autoimmune Protocol. After being diagnosed with celiac disease and Hashimoto's thyroiditis, she used AIP to reclaim her own health and has since dedicated her work to making AIP accessible, evidence-based, and sustainable for others. She is the founder of Autoimmune Wellness and co-creator of the AIP Certified Coach Practitioner Training Program.
40 min
May 11 42: Wearable Technology and Autoimmune Health
In this episode, Jaime and Marie-Noelle welcome Alissa Klein, an AIP Certified Coach and National Board Certified Health Coach, to talk about the role of wearable technology in managing autoimmune disease. Alissa shares her own healing journey navigating multiple autoimmune diagnoses over more than a decade before discovering AIP and the Hashimoto's Protocol, and how those personal experiences led her to a career in health coaching. She supports patients with chronic and autoimmune conditions through an integrative care model combining lifestyle coaching with medical management and access to specialty care.
The conversation dives into how Alissa uses data from wearable devices, specifically the Oura Ring, to help patients uncover personal triggers, identify patterns, and make proactive adjustments to their care plans. She explains the key metrics most relevant to autoimmunity — heart rate variability (HRV), body temperature, and resting heart rate — and shares a compelling real-world example of how tracking those metrics allowed her to detect an oncoming flare in a patient before symptoms became severe. Marie-Noelle and Jaime also share their own experiences with wearable tech and closes with Alissa's signature coaching philosophy and some actionable tips.
See Alissa's profile in the AIP Certified Coach Directory.
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Content presented is for informational purposes only and is not intended to be a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.
The AIP Summit Podcast is a Gutsy By Nature production.
43 min
April 2741: The Somatic Experience in the Autoimmune Protocol
Welcome to the AIP Summit Podcast, your go-to resource for taking control of your autoimmune health, presented by AIP Certified Coaches! Today we're exploring how learning to feel safe in your own body might be just as important to your healing as anything on your plate.
About This Episode
This episode features audio from a live session presented at the Sixth Annual AIP Summit in 2025. The speaker is Alison Whitwood, a board-certified health and wellness coach, AIP Certified Coach, and embodied processing practitioner based in Sydney, Australia. Diagnosed with multiple sclerosis nearly 30 years ago, Alison's own healing journey led her deep into the connection between emotional health and physical recovery.
In this session, Alison introduces the practice of somatic experiencing — specifically how tuning into your body's felt sense and learning to create an internal "safety resource" can regulate your nervous system and actively support the healing process.
Key Concepts Covered
The Felt Sense The felt sense is pure awareness of the emotions and sensations happening in the body — without judgment and without the mental narrative that usually accompanies our feelings. It is the foundation of somatic work and a powerful tool for anyone navigating an autoimmune condition.
The "Two Oars" Philosophy Alison uses the metaphor of rowing a boat with two oars: one oar represents physical health (diet, nutrient density, AIP) and the other represents emotional health. Rowing with only one oar sends you in circles. True healing requires both.
The Nervous System & Stress Responses The nervous system responds to perceived threats through four stress responses: fight, flight, freeze, and fawn. Chronic stress keeps the body in a state of alert, disrupting digestion, immune function, and the body's natural capacity to heal. Somatic practices actively signal safety to the nervous system, helping restore that balance.
Holding Space Holding space means creating a compassionate, non-judgmental inner environment where all emotions and sensations are welcome to exist exactly as they are — without needing to be fixed, changed, or avoided. When we hold space for ourselves this way, we signal to the nervous system that it's safe to stand down and begin restoring.
Building a Safety Resource A "safety resource" is a felt sense of safety you can access at will — a memory, a place, a breath, or a physical anchor (like a hand on the chest or holding your wrist) that brings you back to a state of calm. Alison demonstrates this concept live with a volunteer, Karlee, guiding her to identify and embody her own safety resource.
Application to the Autoimmune Protocol Somatic awareness supports AIP in practical ways:
Approaching food reintroductions from a place of curiosity rather than anxiety
Noticing subtle bodily changes without judgment
Building emotional resilience to manage stress and symptom flare-ups
Promoting long-term healing by keeping the nervous system out of chronic stress
Live Demo Highlight
During the session, Alison guides Summit attendee Karlee through a real-time demonstration of building a safety resource. Karlee accesses a childhood memory — playing with her grandparents' Border Collie puppy on the farm — and uses it to shift her nervous system from tension to ease, noticing her chest open, her shoulders drop, and a sense of expansion arise. Alison then shows how to anchor that feeling in the body for later use.
Case Studies
Mika — A client with IBS who had been holding her emotions at bay for years. Through embodied processing, Mika learned that it was okay to feel sad. Simply holding space for her emotions — without needing to fix them — created profound relief.
Nadine — A friend's sister living with MS, hypothyroidism, and type 2 diabetes, and experiencing significant fatigue and stress. Through somatic work, Nadine discovered a deep, unfamiliar sense of safety — first recognized when she walked into a house she was considering buying and felt, for the first time in her life, "I'm home." This internal sense of safety, she found, had nothing to do with the house itself.
Micro Moments of Safety
Safety doesn't require an hour of practice. As Jaime reflects after the session, it can be as small as:
A single breath before walking through the door
A hand placed on your chest
A memory that brings you back to yourself
These micro moments build resilience over time.
Resources & Links
Full session recording (including slides and Q&A) available in the AIP Summit Community archives — free and paid members can access this session through the end of May: aipsummit.com
Work with Alison Whitwood — find her profile in the AIP Certified Coach Directory
Alison's website: innergoldhealthcoaching.com.au
About the AIP Summit Podcast
AIP is more than a diet — it's a protocol with multiple branches and multiple ways to approach it. Through this podcast, AIP Certified Coaches aim to bring you resources so that you can feel confident about doing AIP on your own, but with the knowledge that you aren't doing AIP alone.
New episodes drop every two weeks. Find the AIP Summit Podcast in your favorite podcast player and follow or subscribe so you never miss an episode. If you'd like to leave a rating and review, it will help others find this podcast — where we are committed to helping you use the power of the Autoimmune Protocol to elevate your wellness journey to new heights!
Content presented is for informational purposes only and is not intended to be a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.
The AIP Summit Podcast is a Gutsy By Nature production.
46 min
April 1340: Why Creatives Get Sick - And What to Do About It! with Andrea Rossi
If your identity is wrapped up in creativity, whether you're a performer, visual artist, filmmaker, musician, writer, or simply someone who thinks in color, this episode is for you. AIP Certified Coach Andrea Rossi joins Jaime and Marie-Noelle to explore the surprising and science-backed connection between creative brains and chronic illness. Andrea is also an after-hours standup comedian with lived experience of autoimmunity and mold illness, and she brings both clinical insight and personal relatability to this conversation.
From the neuroscience of creative anxiety to the very real challenge of doing AIP on an irregular schedule, Andrea reframes what it means to pursue healing while staying true to your creative self.
Meet Our Guest
Andrea Rossi is an AIP Certified Coach who specializes in working with creative individuals navigating chronic and complex illness. Drawing from her own health journey — which began with autoimmune disease in her early 20s and later included the challenges of mold and mycotoxin exposure — as well as her work as a standup comedian, Andrea developed a coaching approach that honors the irregular rhythms, high nervous system arousal, and identity-driven lives of creative people. She works under the brand Dirt and Bones.
See Andrea's profile on the AIP Certified Coach Directory here.
In This Episode
The intersection of creativity and chronic illness Andrea shares how her own creative life as a standup comedian collided with her health journey — and how she began to notice, through conversations in green rooms and her coaching practice, that creative individuals were disproportionately navigating chronic illness.
The science of creative anxiety Research shows that creativity-driven tasks produce more anxiety than non-creative tasks — not because something is wrong, but because creativity requires engaging with uncertainty, ambiguity, and novelty. This is called creative anxiety, and it's built into how creative brains operate. The upside? That same capacity gives creatives access to more tools for managing it.
Higher basal arousal and the nervous system Studies suggest that more creative individuals tend to have higher baseline nervous system arousal — meaning they take in more stimulation from the world around them. An artist isn't just seeing gray; they're seeing a hundred shades of gray. This is a gift and a physiological reality that requires tending.
How irregular schedules, environments, and nourishment patterns affect creative health Late nights, long shoots, performance adrenaline, musty venues, craft services, paid-in-pizza gigs — Andrea walks through the real-life terrain of creative work and how it creates unique obstacles for energy, immune function, hormonal balance, digestion, and nourishment.
Harm reduction for creatives Instead of an all-or-nothing framework, Andrea uses a tiered approach: identifying what's truly non-negotiable (for her, gluten), what requires support and planning, and what has more flexibility. She introduces the concept of anchors — practices you can return to regardless of what's happening — as a more realistic alternative to rigid routines.
AIP for people who resist rigidity For those who have tried AIP and feel they've "failed" — or for the creative personality who lives for spontaneity — Andrea's message is clear: there is nothing wrong with you. Health does not have to look precise. When we start from who someone actually is, we can build something that works.
Progress over protocol Andrea's signature coaching philosophy: if someone is seeing progress — better sleep, more energy, less brain fog, fewer flares — that matters more than whether the protocol looks perfect. She gives the example of focusing exclusively on breakfast for a whole year: that's 33% of someone's meals done right, compounded over time.
Spaciousness and sequence For anyone feeling overwhelmed, Andrea's go-to starting points are:
Spaciousness — Before the Mona Lisa, there was a blank canvas. Before any new habit, we need to create space for it to exist.
Sequence — Having all the right ingredients doesn't help if you add them in the wrong order. Foundations like hydration come before the fancy TikTok supplement.
Using creative tools for nourishment Andrea runs a group called Meditation and Meal Mapping, where she guides participants to connect with imagery, color, sensation, and environment — using creative tools to move toward nourishment rather than "should" language. She talks about helping a ceramicist think about the vessel their food is in, or helping a musician set an ambiance for eating.
Community as a non-negotiable Creative people can experience a compounded sense of isolation — their health challenges are different from their peers, and their social lives often revolve around environments that don't support their healing. Finding community that understands both dimensions matters.
Key Concepts from This Episode
Creative anxiety — Research-identified anxiety unique to creative individuals, driven by engagement with uncertainty and novelty
Higher basal arousal — The neurological tendency of creative people toward greater alertness and sensory input
Anchors vs. routines — Practices you return to regardless of context, rather than rigid daily routines that don't hold up in a creative lifestyle
Harm reduction — A tiered approach to identifying what's non-negotiable, what requires support, and what has flexibility
Progress over protocol — Sustainable, compounded progress matters more than perfect adherence
Spaciousness and sequence — The two universal starting points for anyone who feels overwhelmed
Resources Mentioned
Quiz: Is Your Body Stealing Your Creative Energy? — available on Andrea's website homepage
Free Workshop: Why Creatives Get Sick and What To Do About It — find upcoming dates on Andrea's website
Andrea's website: dirtandbones.com
About the AIP Summit Podcast
The AIP Summit Podcast is your go-to resource for taking control of your autoimmune health, presented by AIP Certified Coaches. AIP is much more than a diet — it's a protocol, a progress journey with multiple branches and multiple ways to approach it. Through this podcast, AIP Certified Coaches bring you the resources so you can feel confident doing AIP on your own, with the knowledge that you're not doing it alone.
Learn how to support our work and become a member of the AIP Summit Community or sign up for our free newsletter to stay up to date on all of our projects.
The AIP Summit Podcast is a Gutsy By Nature production. Content presented is for informational purposes only and is not intended to be a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.
53 min
March 3039: The Healing Power of Nature: Nervous System, Sunlight & Immune Regulation
Nature is free, accessible, and backed by a growing body of science — but for people managing autoimmune disease, it's not just a nice-to-have. In this episode, Jaime and Marie-Noelle explore the specific biological mechanisms that make nature exposure a meaningful part of your healing protocol. From the nervous system-calming effects of forest bathing to the way morning sunlight anchors your immune function, this conversation bridges the science and the practical in a way that's genuinely actionable, wherever you are and however you're feeling.
What You'll Learn in This Episode
Why the HPA axis is uniquely disrupted in autoimmune disease — and why that matters for your daily habits
How chronic sympathetic activation suppresses immune repair while amplifying inflammation
The UC Berkeley research on awe and its measurable anti-inflammatory effects
What Shinrin-yoku (forest bathing) is and the remarkable NK cell findings from Japanese and South Korean studies
Why you don't need access to a forest to get the nervous system benefits of nature
How your circadian rhythm governs immune function — and which autoimmune conditions are most affected by circadian disruption
The cortisol awakening response: what it is, why morning light triggers it, and what happens when it's blunted
Why sunlight and vitamin D supplements are not the same thing
How artificial light at night disrupts melatonin — and why melatonin is far more than a sleep hormone
Simple, low-barrier practices you can start this week, even during a flare
Resources & Links
The Awe & Cytokines Study (UC Berkeley / Dacher Keltner) Stellar, J.E. et al. (2015). Positive Affect and Markers of Inflammation: Discrete Positive Emotions Predict Lower Levels of Inflammatory Cytokines. Published in the journal Emotion. You can read the UC Berkeley news write-up here: https://news.berkeley.edu/2015/02/02/anti-inflammatory/
The Shinrin-yoku / NK Cell Study (Dr. Qing Li) Li, Q. et al. (2007). Forest Bathing Enhances Human Natural Killer Activity and Expression of Anti-Cancer Proteins. Published in the International Journal of Immunopathology and Pharmacology. Full text on PubMed: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17903349/ And the follow-up review paper (which covers the lasting NK cell effects): https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2793341/
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29 min
March 16 38: Decoding Gut Driven Autoimmune Flares
This episode of the AIP Summit Podcast features a presentation by functional nutritionist and AIP Certified Coach, Jennifer Franchak, focusing on the gut-immune connection in autoimmune disease. Flare-ups are not random but are messages from an overprotective immune system, influenced by gut health and microbiome imbalances. Jennifer describes the "autoimmune harmony" method, a framework to help women understand their flare patterns and manage their health. She emphasizes the importance of gut health in immune system communication, explaining how inflammation and microbiome imbalances can lead to immune confusion and unpredictable flare-ups and outlines practical steps for improving gut health, including dietary changes and lifestyle adjustments, and highlights the role of the GI MAP test in identifying gut issues. Jennifer also discusses the significance of stress management and the nervous system in maintaining gut health and reducing flare-ups.
**Download the free Autoimmune Harmony Roadmap**
ALSO MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE
Learn about membership in the AIP Summit Community
March 19-23 - spring "encore" re-broadcast of the 7th Annual AIP Summit
Meet Jennifer Franchak
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March 02 37. Story of Healing with Celiac Disease - Jan Steele
This episode features Jan Steele, an AIP Certified Coach who operates La Goose, a gluten-free and dairy-free teaching kitchen and bed and breakfast in the South of France, where she emphasizes wellness and inclusivity. We talked with Jan to get insights on gluten-free baking and the importance of reintroductions in the AIP journey and she shared her personal journey with celiac disease and the how highlights the significance of addressing lifestyle factors alongside dietary changes. Her coaching philosophy stresses the holistic nature of AIP, advocating for balance in diet, movement, and stress management.

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February 16 36. Story of Healing with Multiple Sclerosis - Becca Benning
The AIP Summit Podcast, hosted by Jaime Hartman and Marie-Noelle Marquis, is a resource for individuals seeking to manage autoimmune health through the Autoimmune Protocol (AIP). In this episode, they interviewed Becca Benning, an AIP Certified Coach, who shared her personal journey with multiple sclerosis and her professional endeavors, including the Autoimmune Health Club and AIP retreats in the south of France. Becca discussed her health challenges, including her diagnosis of multiple sclerosis in 2012, and how she discovered AIP in 2016 after a pivotal conversation with her neurologist. She emphasized the importance of lifestyle changes alongside dietary adjustments, highlighting the significance of self-knowledge and community support in managing autoimmune conditions. This conversation underscores the comprehensive nature of AIP, advocating for a personalized approach to health that includes small, experimental steps towards wellness.

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Meet guest Becca Benning
AIP Retreats in the South of France
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February 02 35. Lifestyle Factors that Accelerate Healing - Stress Management
Stress management plays a critical role role in managing autoimmune conditions and this episode highlights that stress is not merely an emotional state but a physiological response that can exacerbate inflammation and immune dysregulation. Chronic stress is linked to autoimmune flare-ups due to its impact on inflammatory signaling, gut barrier function, and overall immune regulation. Hosts, Jaime Hartman and Marie-Noëlle Marquis, suggest practical stress management strategies, such as calming breath techniques and mind dumps, to help individuals regain control and resilience. Additionally, the episode features insights from Leah Williamson, an AIP Certified Coach, who discusses the importance of creating a "ceremony of eating" to promote a parasympathetic state conducive to digestion and stress reduction.

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