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  • The Democratic People's Republic of Korea and Aegukka

    Today's episode delves into the national anthem of North Korea, known as "Aguka," and explores the complex history surrounding its creation. The host reflects on the intriguing yet uncomfortable experience of appreciating a song from a country often associated with oppression and isolation. As the discussion unfolds, the narrative highlights the surprising origins of North Korea as a communist state and the significant role of Kim Il Sung in shaping its history. The episode also touches on the geographical and cultural aspects of North Korea, contrasting it with South Korea and examining the impacts of historical events on both nations. Through this exploration, listeners gain insight into the anthem's lyrics and the broader significance of national identity in a politically charged context.

    Yes, I know I pronounced subsistence every time and I will note in the next episode. Sorry folks.

    Here is a piece of good news about the country:

    https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/north-and-south-korea-have-begun-clearing-the-mines-in-the-dmz/

    Also, EAT KOREAN FOODS:

    https://www.tastewiththeeyes.com/2015/05/gochujang-chicken-adobo-chef-hooni-kim/

    Sources:

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icY3PS6X-V8 Newscasters are the whitest people in the world, smh.
    2. https://www.quora.com/Why-do-communist-countries-have-the-best-national-anthems 
    3. https://www.google.com/books/edition/Historical_Dictionary_of_Democratic_Peop/rh5h4bZgkhEC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=aegukka+pak+se-yong&pg=PA273&printsec=frontcover
    4. https://archive.org/details/00book729884
    5. Cumings, Bruce (2005). Korea's Place in the Sun: A Modern History. New York: W. W. Norton & Company.
    6. Robinson, Michael E (2007). Korea's Twentieth-Century Odyssey. Honolulu: University of Hawaii Press.
    7. https://web.archive.org/web/20050318052905/http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/GC16Dg03.html
    8. Sohn, Won Tai (2003). Kim Il Sung and Korea's Struggle: An Unconventional Firsthand History
    9. Lankov, Andrei (2002). From Stalin to Kim Il Sung: The Formation of North Korea 1945–1960. Rutgers University Press.
    10. Robinson, Michael E (2007). Korea's Twentieth-Century Odyssey. Honolulu: University of Hawaii Press.
    11. Sang-Hun, Choe; Lafraniere, Sharon (27 August 2010). "Carter Wins Release of American in North Korea". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 30 June 2017.
    12. Smith, Lydia (8 July 2014). "Kim Il-sung Death Anniversary: How the North Korea Founder Created a Cult of Personality". International Business Times UK. Archived
    13. Lankov, Andrei (2002). From Stalin to Kim Il Sung: The Formation of North Korea 1945–1960. Rutgers University Press.
    14. Lone, Stewart; McCormack, Gavan (1993). Korea since 1850. Melbourne: Longman Cheshire.
    15. https://providencemag.com/2016/07/jerusalem-east-american-christians-pyongyang/ 
    16. Seth, Michael J. (16 October 2010). A History of Korea: From Antiquity to the Present. Rowman & Littlefield Publishers (published 2010).
    17. Buzo, Adrian (2002). The Making of Modern Korea. London: Routledge.
    18. Blair, Clay, The Forgotten War: America in Korea, Naval Institute Press (2003).
    19. "Writer remembered with national anthem". Pyongyang Times. THE PYONGYANG TIMES.
    20. "Pak Se-yong". Korean Affairs Report No. 304: North Korea, Biographical Dictionary (Part II) (PDF). Washington, D.C.: Foreign Broadcast Information Service. 1983-08-24.
    21. James E. Hoare (13 July 2012). Historical Dictionary of Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Scarecrow Press. 
    22. Portal, Jane (15 August 2005). Art Under Control in North Korea. Reaktion Books. pp. 92–93. ISBN 978-1-86189-236-2.
    23. 2010 Minerals Yearbook (PDF). United States Geological Survey.

    Li, Jie (21 August 2002). "Some Discoveries of Fossils and Relics of Prehistoric Civilizations From Around the World". Pureinsight.

    33 min
  • The Republic of Seychelles and Koste Seselwa

    The fourth episode of the Anthems podcast explores the national anthem of the Republic of Seychelles, titled "Coste Se Selwa." Patrick delves into the unique history of the Seychelles, a remote archipelago in the Indian Ocean, and its journey to independence in 1976. He highlights the contributions of the anthem's composers, Georges Payet and David Andre, both influential figures in Seychelles' music scene, who collaborated to create this brief yet poignant anthem. The episode also touches on the country's environmental consciousness, as reflected in the lyrics, which emphasize harmony, peace, and the preservation of natural beauty for future generations. With a blend of historical context and musical analysis, Patrick invites listeners to appreciate the rich cultural tapestry of Seychelles while encouraging them to explore its stunning landscapes.

    Hi. I live on a SUPER busy road and you can definitely hear cars and stuff in this record. I'm trying to mitigate as best as I can with curtains, sound dampening panels, and carefully chosen record times. But it's like 24/7 here and I'm sorry. Someday I hope to have an actual closet to record in, currently I have zero of them in my home.

    My sources:

    1. Tim Ecott (16 July 2011). "Royal honeymooners' 'erotic' souvenir". BBC News.
    2. "State-sponsored Homophobia: A world survey of laws prohibiting same sex activity between consenting adults", International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association, authored by Lucas Paoli Itaborahy, May 2012  Archived17 October 2012 at the Wayback Machine, p.34
    3. “Pirates, Slavers, and the Indigenous Population in Madagascar, c. 1690–1715,” International Journal of African Historical Studies 38, no. 3 (2005): 401–425
    4. "Our History". National Assembly of Seychelles. Archived from the original on 28 June 2012. Retrieved 12 May 2012.
    5. https://www.seyvillas.com/en/guide/at-a-glance/history 
    6. "Vasco da Gama | Biography, Achievements, Route, Map, Significance, & Facts". Encyclopedia Britannica. Retrieved 31 October 2021.
    7. Fauvel, Albert-Auguste. "Unpublished Documents on the History of the Seychelles Islands Anterior to 1810". Government Printing Office, Mahé, Seychelles, via the World Digital Library. Archived from the original on 2014-07-07. Retrieved 2014-06-19.
    8. "africanhistory.about.com". africanhistory.about.com. Archived from the original on 14 March 2012.
    9. Guy Lionnet, The Seychelles (Newton Abbot, UK: David & Charles, 1972), 68; William McAteer, Rivals in Eden: The History of the Seychelles, 1742–1827, rev. ed. (Mahé, Seychelles: Pristine Books, 2002), 62–63.
    10. Claude Wanquet, “Le peuplement des Seychelles sous l’occupation française: Une Experience de Colonization à la fin du XVIIIe Siècle,” in Mouvements de Populations dans l’océan Indien (Paris: Honoré Champion, 1979), 188–190.
    11. Peter Nicholls, “‘The Door to the Coast of Africa’: The Seychelles in the Mascarene Slave Trade, 1770–1830” (PhD diss., University of Kent, 2018), 22, 32–33, 58, 64.
    12. Lionnet, The Seychelles, 101–102. See also Uma Kothari, “Contesting Colonial Rule: Politics of Exile in the Indian Ocean,” Geoforum 43, no. 4 (2012), 697–706.
    13. Katarzyna Podhorodecka, “The Economic Significance of the Tourism Sector in Seychelles in the Wake of Global Economic Crisis,” Economic Problems of Tourism 3 (2018), 29–40
    14. Deryck Scarr, Seychelles since 1770: History of a Slave and Post-Slavery Society (London: C. Hurst, 2000), 164–203
    15. https://www.statehouse.gov.sc/news/5219/president-ramkalawan-attends-ceremony-to-commemorate-constitution-day 
    16. https://www.statehouse.gov.sc/news/5849/appointment-of-acting-mayor-of-victoria 
    17. http://www.seychellesnewsagency.com/articles/14701/Partners+meet+to+discuss+the+development+of+Seychelles%27+cultural+tourism 
    18. https://the-shooting-star.com/a-song-from-seychelles/ 
    19. https://www.statehouse.gov.sc/news/4706/president-receives-members-of-saturn-band-at-state-house 
    20. https://kreolmagazine.com/tag/david-andre/ 
    21. https://kreolmagazine.com/culture/features/david-andre-mayor-of-victoria-seychelles/ 
    22. https://www.nation.sc/archive/259411/letter-to-the-editor-the-national-anthem-saga-continues- 

    29 min
  • The Republic of North Macedonia and Denes nad Makedonija

    Today, we delve into the national anthem of the Republic of North Macedonia, "Danas nad Macedonisia," exploring its historical significance and the cultural identity it embodies. The anthem's roots are intertwined with the country's struggle for independence, reflecting a journey that began as far back as the fourth century BCE and culminated in the 20th century. We will trace the anthem's evolution from its inception during the early 1900s through its adoption as the national anthem following Macedonia's declaration of independence in 1991. Along the way, we'll uncover the stories of key figures, including poet Vlado Maleski and composer Todor Skalavski, who played pivotal roles in shaping the anthem's legacy. Join us as we uncover the musical and lyrical transformations that have defined this powerful symbol of Macedonian nationalism.

    Hey all. Thanks for listening. Reach me at [email protected].

    Here are the notes

    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbBitmYfIBA 
    2. https://random.country/north-macedonia/ 
    3. https://random.country 
    4. https://www.britannica.com/place/Paeonia
    5. https://web.archive.org/web/20081116102337/http://www.mfa.gov.mk/default1.aspx?ItemID=288
    6. https://www.mfa.gov.mk/en
    7. Banac, Ivo (1984). The National Question in Yugoslavia. Origins, History, Politics. London and Ithaka: Cornell University Press. ISBN 978-0801416750.
    8. Laffan, R.G.D. (1989). The Serbs: The Guardians of the Gate. Armenian Research Center collection. Dorset Press. ISBN 978-0-88029-413-3.
    9. Roisman, Joseph; Worthington, Ian (2010). A Companion to Ancient Macedonia. John Wiley and Sons. p. 13. ISBN 978-1-4051-7936-2. Retrieved 10 February 2016.
    10.  Keith Brown, The Past in Question: Modern Macedonia and the Uncertainties of Nation, Princeton University Press, 2018, ISBN 0691188432, p. 71.
    11. Reynolds, Michael A. (2011). Shattering Empires: The Clash and Collapse of the Ottoman and Russian Empires 1908–1918. Cambridge University Press. p. 324. ISBN 978-0521149167.
    12. Mamčev, T., Kitan Ivanovska, M., Skalovski, D. (2003). Todor Skalovski: životot i deloto. North Macedonia: Makedonska akademija na naukite i umetnostite.
    13. https://blesok.mk/en/authors/vlado-maleski/ 
    14. Bianchi, B. (2012). War crimes and crimes against humanity: violence against civilians on the eastern front (1914-1919). Biblioteca di storia contemporanea (in Italian). UNICOPLI. p. 163. ISBN 978-88-400-1579-8.
    15. https://web.archive.org/web/20070927023528/http://www.dpism.org.mk/clen_mac.asp?id=445
    16. https://makedonija.name/culture/vlado-maleski 
    17. https://vmacedonia.com/politics/symbols/macedonian-national-anthem.html
    18. https://vmacedonia.com/culture/music/todor-skalovski.html
    19. https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/6528543 
    20. Bechev, Dimitar (2009). Historical Dictionary of the Republic of Macedonia. Scarecrow Press. ISBN 978-0810862951 – via Google Books.
    21. Duncan Perry, "The Republic of Macedonia: finding its way" in Karen Dawisha and Bruce Parrot (eds.), Politics, power and the struggle for Democracy in South-Eastern Europe, Cambridge University Press, 1997, pp. 228-229.
    22. Georgieva, Valentina; Konechni, Sasha (1998). Historical Dictionary of the Republic of Macedonia. Scarecrow Press. ISBN 0810833360.
    23. History of Bulgaria, Petar Delev et al., 2001, p. 364
    24. Axis Forces in Yugoslavia 1941–45. Bloomsbury. 1995. ISBN 978-1855324732
    25. Pavković, Aleksandar; Kelen, Christopher (October 28, 2015). "Chapter 6 – A Fight for Rights: Macedonia 1941". Anthems and the Making of Nation States: Identity and Nationalism in the Balkans. I.B. Tauris. ISBN 9780857739698.
    26. Kolstø, Pål (April 1, 2016). Strategies of Symbolic Nation-building in South Eastern Europe. Routledge. ISBN 9781317049357. Retrieved June 15, 2017.
    27. James Horncastle, The Macedonian Slavs in the Greek Civil War, 1944–1949, Rowman & Littlefield, 2019, ISBN 1498585051, p. 167.
    28. Axis Forces in Yugoslavia 1941–45. Bloomsbury. 1995. ISBN 978-1855324732 – via Google Books.
    29. Constitution of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. Amendments to the Constitution of SFRY. Constitution of the Socialist Republic of Macedonia. Amendments to the Constitution of SRM. Official Gazette of SRM. 19819. P. 455
    30. "Macedonia – History". Worldmark Encyclopedia of Nations (12th ed.). Thomson Gale. 2007.
    31. https://play.mrt.com.mk/live/47 
    32. https://heraldika.org.mk/news/himnata-denes-nad-makedonija-se-ragja-2/ 
    33. Nohlen, D & Stöver, P (2010) Elections in Europe: A data handbook, p. 1278 ISBN 978-3-8329-5609-7
    34. "State Symbols of Republic of Macedonia". Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Government of the Republic of Macedonia. Archived from the original
    35. Dieter Nohlen and Philip Stöver (2010) Elections in Europe: A Data Handbook, p. 1278 ISBN 978-3-8329-5609-7
    36. https://pretsedatel.mk/en/republic-of-north-macedonia/ 
    37. Bernard A. Cook ed., Europe Since 1945: An Encyclopedia, Volume 2, Taylor & Francis, 2001, ISBN 0815340583, p. 808.
    38. Пейо Яворов, "Събрани съчинения", Том втори, "Гоце Делчев", Издателство "Български писател", София, 1977, стр. 69. (in Bulgarian) In English: Peyo Yavorov, "Complete Works", Volume 2, biography Delchev, Publishing house "Bulgarian writer", Sofia, 1977, p. 69.
    39. Brown, K. (2003) The Past in Question: Modern Macedonia and the Uncertainties of Nation (Princeton: Princeton University Press); pp. 196–198, ISBN 0-691-09995-2
    40.  Sherman, Laura Beth (1980). Fires on the Mountain: The Macedonian Revolutionary Movement and the Kidnapping of Ellen Stone. East European Monographs. p. 89. ISBN 9780914710554
    41. The Balkan Wars in the Eyes of the Warring Parties: Perceptions and Interpretations, Igor Despot, iUniverse, 2012, ISBN 1475947054, p. 22.

    34 min
  • Italy and Il Canto degli Italiani

    This podcast delves into the history of Italy's national anthem, "Il canto degli Italiani," exploring its origins and the turbulent political backdrop of 19th-century Italy. The anthem, composed by Michele Novaro and written by the poet Goffredo Mameli, emerged during a time of revolutionary fervor aimed at unifying a fragmented nation. It reflects themes of patriotism, sacrifice, and the longing for a cohesive identity, making it a poignant symbol of Italian nationalism. The episode highlights the passionate involvement of its creators in the Italian unification movement, as well as the anthem's complex journey through political upheaval, including its suppression under foreign rule and its resurgence during periods of conflict. Ultimately, the anthem's enduring popularity underscores its deep-rooted significance in the hearts of Italians, representing their struggle for unity and independence.

    This podcast delves into the history of Italy's national anthem, "Il canto degli Italiani," exploring its origins and the turbulent political backdrop of 19th-century Italy. The anthem, composed by Michele Novaro and written by the poet Goffredo Mameli, emerged during a time of revolutionary fervor aimed at unifying a fragmented nation. It reflects themes of patriotism, sacrifice, and the longing for a cohesive identity, making it a poignant symbol of Italian nationalism. The episode highlights the passionate involvement of its creators in the Italian unification movement, as well as the anthem's complex journey through political upheaval, including its suppression under foreign rule and its resurgence during periods of conflict. Ultimately, the anthem's enduring popularity underscores its deep-rooted significance in the hearts of Italians, representing their struggle for unity and independence.

    This episode tells the story of Il Canto Degli Italiani in the context of the Risorgimento and the general European madness that was 1848 CE. A tale of a passionate people fighting for a shared cultural identity.

    Anthemspod.com got you here - email me at [email protected] - +1 203 7598375

    8-bit version!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtLHjE_HbPQ

    My sources, mostly in order of appearance:

    1.  https://www.paesesera.toscana.it/inno-di-mameli-adottato-come-inno-nazionale/
    2.  http://www.sbti.it/bibliotelematica/CataldoMoti48.pdf
    3.  https://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/goffredo-mameli_(Enciclopedia-Italiana)/
    4.  Rinaldo Caddeo, War hymns and patriotic songs of the Italian people selected and annotated, 3rd ed., Milan, Casa Editrice Risorgimento, 1915.
    5. Adriano Bassi, Brothers of Italy: the great characters of the Risorgimento, music and unity , Milan, Paoline, 2011, ISBN  978-88-315-3994-4 .
    6.  https://books.google.it/books?id=dybmY18nJ8wC&printsec=frontcover&hl=it#v=onepage&q&f=false
    7.  Kertzer, D. I. (2018). The Pope who Would be King: The Exile of Pius IX and the Emergence of Modern Europe. United Kingdom: Oxford University Press.
    8.  https://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/goffredo-mameli_%28L%27Unificazione%29/
    9.  https://web.archive.org/web/20090724025908/https://www.quirinale.it/qrnw/statico/simboli/inno/inno.htm
    10. https://web.archive.org/web/20170915204413/https://www.europeanasounds.eu/news/the-song-of-the-italians-brief-history-of-a-national-anthem
    11. Brody, Elaine; Brook, Claire (1975), Brody, Elaine; Brook, Claire (eds.), "Turin (Piedmont)", The Music Guide to Italy, London: Macmillan Education UK, pp. 109–114, doi:10.1007/978-1-349-05291-2_15, ISBN 978-1-349-05291-2, retrieved 2020-12-22
    12. Anton Giulio Barrili , Goffredo Mameli in life and in art, in New Anthology , vol. 99, no. 731, 1 June 1902, pp. 385-409.
    13.  https://dbpedia.org/page/Michele_Novaro
    14.  https://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/michele-novaro_(Dizionario-Biografico)/
    15.  Umberto Levra , Introduction , in History of Turin, VI, The city in the Risorgimento (1798-1864) ( PDF ), Turin, G. Einaudi, 2000, pp. CXV-CXVI, ISBN  88-06-15173-8 .
    16.  Tarquinio Maiorino, Giuseppe Marchetti Tricamo and Piero Giordana, Brothers of Italy: the true story of the Mameli hymn, p. 18, Milan, Mondadori, 2001, ISBN  88-04-49985-0 .
    17.  https://blog.lime.link/visualizing-crowd-sizes/
    18.  Italy , year I, no. 28, Pisa, Tipografia Nistri, 18 December 1847, p. 113.
    19.  Rinaldo Caddeo, War hymns and patriotic songs of the Italian people selected and annotated, 3rd ed., Milan, Casa Editrice Risorgimento, 1915. pp.37-38
    20.  Hymn by Mameli, scholar: "Mazzini didn't like the first arrangement" www.adnkronos.com
    21.  Carlo Belviglieri, History of Italy from 1814 to 1866, vol. 5-6, Corona and Caimi, 1868, p. 289.
    22.  Stefano Pivato , Il Canto degli Italiani: the anthem of Mameli, the political anthems and the popular song, in Maurizio Ridolfi (edited by), Almanacco della Repubblica: history of Italy through the traditions, institutions and republican symbols , Milan, Bruno Mondadori, 2003, pp. 145-158
    23.  Stefano Pivato , Il Canto degli Italiani: the anthem of Mameli, the political anthems and the popular song, in Maurizio Ridolfi (edited by), Almanacco della Repubblica: history of Italy through the traditions, institutions and republican symbols , Milan, Bruno Mondadori, 2003, pp. 145-158
    24.  https://www.raiplay.it/dirette/raistoria/
    25.  https://www.treccani.it/enciclopedia/marcia-su-roma_(Dizionario-di-Storia)
    26.  Michele Calabrese, Il Canto degli Italiani: genesis and vicissitudes of a hymn, in Quaderni del Bobbio , n. 3, 2011, p. 105-140.
    27.  https://www.gazzettaufficiale.it/eli/id/2017/12/15/17G00195/SG
    28.  https://data.europa.eu/en
    29. https://studiamedievalis.wordpress.com/2013/12/30/federico-i-e-i-comuni/
    30.  Dizionario Enciclopedico Italiano , V, Institute of the Italian Encyclopedia founded by Giovanni Treccani, 1970, p. 247.
    31.  Serena Piazza (edited by), Brothers of Italy. The illustrated national anthem , illustrations by Paolo D'Altan, Milan, Rizzoli, 2010, ISBN  978-88-17-04408-0 .
    32.  http://www.radiomarconi.com/Marconi/mameli.html
    33.  Maurizio Benedetti (edited by), Il Canto degli Italiani: poetry by Goffredo Mameli, music by Michele Novaro for voice and piano ( PDF ), Critical Edition, Turin, Conservatory Editions, 2019
    34. Vulpone, Pasquale (2002). Il Canto degli Italiani. Inno d'Italia (in Italian). Pellegrini. ISBN 88-8101-140-9.

    42 min
  • Haiti and La Dessalinienne

    This inaugural episode of the Anthems podcast dives into the story behind Haiti's national anthem, "La Dessalinienne," highlighting its deep connections to the Haitian Revolution and the country's quest for independence. Patrick shares insights about Jean Jacques Dessalines, the anthem's namesake, who was a pivotal figure in leading Haiti to become the first independent Black republic. The episode explores the historical context of Haiti's tumultuous past, including the impact of slavery and colonialism, and how these themes are woven into the anthem's lyrics. Listeners will learn about the anthem's creation in the early 1900s and its role in fostering national pride and unity. Through a blend of historical narrative and musical analysis, this episode provides a compelling look at how national anthems serve as symbols of identity and resilience.

    Thanks for coming and checking out the notes. I seriously am brand new at this so expect whatever I do here to change.

    Find me on Facebook as The Anthems Podcast

    anthemspodcast.com gets you here :)

    Write me at [email protected]

    Call me at +1 (203) 759-8375

    If you're wondering I played the intro/outro music on a tenor ukulele string gCEA

    I found an excellent 8 bit channel that has national anthems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyOhVVUCC5k

    As indicated in the show here are the lyrics in the relevant languages

    First in French (the original language of the song):

    Pour le Pays, pour les Ancêtres,

    Marchons unis, marchons unis.

    Dans nos rangs point de traîtres!

    Du sol soyons seuls maîtres.

    Marchons unis, marchons unis

    Pour le Pays, pour les Ancêtres,

    Marchons, marchons, marchons unis,

    Pour le Pays, pour les Ancêtres...

    Pour les Aïeux, pour la Patrie

    Bêchons joyeux, bêchons joyeux

    Quand le champ fructifie

    L'âme se fortifie

    Bêchons joyeux, bêchons joyeux

    Pour les Aïeux, pour la Patrie

    Bêchons, bêchons, bêchons joyeux

    Pour les Aïeux, pour la Patrie.

    Pour le Pays et pour nos Pères

    Formons des Fils, formons des Fils

    Libres, forts et prospères

    Toujours nous serons frères

    Formons des Fils, formons des Fils

    Pour le Pays et pour nos Pères

    Formons, formons, formons des Fils

    Pour le Pays et pour nos Pères.

    Pour les Aïeux, pour la Patrie

    O Dieu des Preux, O Dieu des Preux!

    Sous ta garde infinie

    Prends nos droits, notre vie

    O Dieu des Preux, O Dieu des Preux!

    Pour les Aïeux, pour la Patrie

    O Dieu, O Dieu, O Dieu des Preux

    Pour les Aïeux, pour la Patrie.

    Pour le Drapeau, pour la Patrie

    Mourir est beau, mourir est beau!

    Notre passé nous crie:

    Ayez l'âme aguerrie!

    Mourir est beau, mourir est beau

    Pour le Drapeau, pour la Patrie

    Mourir, mourir, mourir est beau

    Pour le Drapeau, pour la Patrie.


    The English translation of that:

    For the Country, for the Ancestors,

    Let us march united, let us march united.

    Let there be no traitors in our ranks!

    Let us be the only masters of the soil.

    Let us march united, let us march united

    For the Country, for the Ancestors,

    Let us march, let us march, let us march united,

    For the Country, for the Ancestors...


    For the Forefathers, for the Fatherland

    Let us toil joyous, let us toil joyous.

    When the field fructifies

    The soul fortifies

    Let us toil joyous, let us toil joyous

    For the Forefathers, for the Fatherland

    Let us toil, let us toil, let us toil joyous

    For the Forefathers, for the Fatherland.


    For the Country and for our Fathers

    Let us train Sons, let us train Sons

    Free, strong and prosperous

    We shall always be brothers

    Let us train Sons, Let us train Sons

    For the Country and for our Fathers

    Let us train, let us train, let us train Sons

    For the Country and for our Fathers.


    For the Forefathers, for the Fatherland

    Oh God of the Valiant, Oh God of the Valiant!

    Under your infinite protection

    Take our rights, our life

    Oh God of the Valiant, Oh God of the Valiant!

    For the Forefathers, for the Fatherland

    Oh God, Oh God, Oh God of the Valiant

    For the Forefathers, for the Fatherland.


    For the Flag, for the Fatherland

    To die is beautiful, to die is beautiful!

    Our past cries out to us:

    Have a hardened soul!

    To die is beautiful, to die is beautiful

    For the Flag, for the Fatherland

    To die, to die, to die is beautiful

    For the Flag, for the Fatherland.


    Then in Haitian Creole:

    Pou Ayiti peyi Zansèt yo

    Se pou n mache men nan lamen

    Nan mitan n pa fèt pou gen trèt

    Nou fèt pou n sèl mèt tèt nou.

    Annou mache men nan lamen

    Pou Ayiti ka vin pi bèl

    Annou, annou, met tèt ansanm

    Pou Ayiti onon tout Zansèt yo.


    Pou Ayiti onon Zansèt yo

    Se pou n sekle se pou n plante

    Se nan tè tout fòs nou chita

    Se li k ba nou manje

    Ann bite tè, ann voye wou

    Ak kè kontan, fòk tè a bay

    Sekle, wouze, fanm tankou gason

    Pou-n rive viv ak sèl fòs ponyèt nou.


    Pou Ayiti ak pou Zansèt yo

    Fo nou kapab vanyan gason

    Moun pa fèt pou ret avèk moun

    Se sa k fè tout Manman ak tout Papa

    Dwe pou voye Timoun lekòl

    Pou yo aprann, pou yo konnen

    Sa Tousen, Desalin, Kristòf, Petyon

    Te fè pou wet Ayisyen anba kòd blan.


    Pou Ayiti onon Zansèt yo

    Ann leve tèt nou gad anlè

    Pou tout moun mande Granmèt la

    Pou l ba nou pwoteksyon

    Pou move zanj pa detounen n

    Pou-n ka mache nan bon chimen

    Pou libète ka libète

    Fòk lajistis blayi sou peyi a!


    Nou gen drapo tankou tout pèp

    Se pou n renmen l mouri pou li

    Se pa kado blan te fè nou

    Se san Zansèt nou yo ki te koule

    Pou nou kenbe drapo nou wo

    Se pou n travay met tèt ansanm.

    Pou lòt peyi ka respekte l

    Drapo sila a se nanm tout Ayisyen.


    And lastly in the English of that:

    For Haiti, the Country of the Ancestors

    we must walk hand in hand

    There must not be traitors among us--

    We alone must be our master

    Let's walk hand in hand

    that Haiti may be more beautiful

    Let us put our heads together

    for Haiti on behalf of all the ancestors


    For Haiti on the behalf of the Ancestors

    Let us mow, let us sow.

    All our strength rests in the soul--

    It is what feeds us.

    Let us mound up earth, let us send water

    With joy, the earth must be fertile

    Mow, water, women and men

    that we may live by our own arms' strength alone.


    For Haiti and for the Ancestors

    We must be courageous, capable men.

    People are not born to serve others

    That is why all mothers and fathers

    Need to send children to school,

    to learn, to know

    what Toussaint, Dessalines, Christophe, Pétion

    did to take Haitians from under the whites' rope.


    For Haiti on the behalf of the Ancestors

    Let us raise our head and look above.

    Let everyone to ask the Lord

    to grant us protection

    that the evil angels may not divert us,

    that we may walk in the right path.

    For liberty to be able to liberate,

    justice must spread over the country!


    We have a flag like all peoples.

    Let us love it, die for it.

    It was not a gift from the whites--

    It was our Ancestors' blood that was shed.

    Let us hold our flag high.

    Let us work together and focus

    that other countries may respect it

    This flag is the soul of every Haitian.


    I mostly stick to the script here because it's easier to record that way but there is always going to be some deviation in what I record and what I've written. I also have not yet finalized the footnoting method I like for writing a script, again, this is new to me. As such there are a bunch of words with numbers written after them. Those are my ref numbers and are used for writing purposes. The reference list I used appears at the very end in no particular order:

       *Opens with intro music*

    Hello everyone and welcome to The Anthems Podcast. I’m Patrick and today I’m going to try and tell you the story of a song that helps tell the story of a nation. If I’m doing this correctly you’ll want to hear the next one. I assume podcasting works like that, Right?  Anyway, this is episode 01: Haiti

    Today’s anthem of choice is La Dessalinienne. Haiti gets to first because I asked my wife for a number between one and one hundred, she picked 73, and Haiti is the 73rd entry on the alphabetical list of national anthems on the Wikipedia that lists them. I had to start somewhere and wanted to avoid themes and topical influences, at least to get started, so an essentially random process it was.

    It’s a fine choice though, because the story of the national anthem of Haiti contains as it’s opening act the story of the Haitian revolution. It’s a favorite revolution of mine and it’s pretty fun that I got to talk about it right out of the gate and in a random way. Of course, I’m going to be giving a seriously shorthand version of it and it’s just a section of the narrative but we’re talking about national anthems and they’re a very patriotic thing. It should not be a surprise that revolution is going to be at least mentioned and often plays a central role in an anthem’s story. In the case of Haiti’s national anthem the story starts about 33 years before the revolution.

    First though we need to hear the song itself! This is the national anthems podcast afterall. We’ll be going in blind each time so have a listen to 3 minutes and 30 seconds of La Dessalinienne.

    *Plays Audio of the anthem*

    My first thought is that it definitely has the fanfare and bombastic composition I kind of expect in certain kinds of anthems national anthem. Of course I say this as a guy that is doing a podcast on national anthems so I’ve been giving a critical listen to A LOT of these types of songs lately and reading A LOT about them. Feels like a military parade song. I won’t read the entire five verses yet (and it will be a rare occasion indeed if you here me sing here) but the first makes the initial point well. It reads thus:

    For the Country, for the Ancestors,

    Let us march united, let us march united.

    Let there be no traitors in our ranks!

    Let us be the only masters of the soil.

    Let us march united, let us march united

    For the Country, for the Ancestors,

    Let us march, let us march, let us march united,

    For the Country, for the Ancestors…

    This is classic national anthem stuff. For the nation, for the people, tradition, and etc…, checks many boxes in that respect. I mean, the first time it was performed for the public it was at a military style celebration to celebrate a historic victory to mark a century of independence, martial seems the appropriate descriptor of the tune. Put a pin in all that though, I’m getting ahead of things by like 165 years. The story of La Dessalinienne starts with the story of the guy the anthem is named to honor: Jean-Jacques Dessalines. I’ll put the full lyrics of the French and Haitian Creole in the show notes and I’ll discuss them a little more later on. The story needs to be told before we can really talk about the song.

    Haiti is a nation of about 11.3 million people located in the Greater Antilles archipelago of the Caribbean Sea, east of Cuba and Jamaica, and south of The Bahamas and the Turks and Caicos Islands. The country shares the island of Hispanolia with The Dominican Republic and occupies a bit more than three eighths of the western half of the island. That’s like 10,700 square miles versus Dominican Republics 18,700 square miles. Haiti is the third largest country in the Caribbean by land are and the largest one by population. It is also the site of Navidad, the first Western settlement in the Americas established in 1492 by Christopher Columbus himself. This began the colonial period that served as the staging point for many things. The start of story involves another terrible thing that’s not rare: slavery. So we fast forward from 

    Jean-Jacques was a man born into slavery in the French colony of St. Domingue with the surname Duclos. It’s known that his father took this name from the guy that owned him, Henri Duclos. Sadly not much else is known about his parents though because slavers weren’t big on getting people’s lineal information when they were kidnapping them from their homelands. It is 1758 and it was about 133 years into the French portion of the colonial occupation that began as a bunch of pirates participating in harassing the Spanish that were settled there. No kidding, they were even not so quietly funded by the crown in France.

    Jean worked as a laborer for the same plantation he was born in until he was 30 years old. In that time he rose as a high as one was allowed and became a commandeur, what we’d call a foreman in English. A tough life that broke so many people. In 1788 Jean-Jacques was purchased by a free man of color (one of the MANY complicated layers of 18th century Haitian society I’m going to have to skip almost completely) called Henri Dessalines.Considering the complete of mention of him it appears giving his surname to a revolutionary was Henri’s single contribution to historical record.

    Interestingly enough 1889 also happened to be the year the French took a census and I’ll quote a few broad strokes. Different sources cite different numbers with the slave population varying from 500,000 to 700,000 people. They do however consistently say that the Europens were soundly outnumbered ten to one by the people that they thought it was ok to own.

    It was in this environment Toussaint Louverture began gathering the first slave armies and began the Haitian revolution. We’re going to skip basically all of that though because it isn’t critical for the story of the anthem this is supposed to be about. Remember the song I said I was talking about? Besides, it’s been done by Mike Duncan on The Revolutions Podcast and if you like history explained by someone who‘s better at podcasting than me you should give his stuff a listen. At the beginning of the revolution Jean-Jacques decided to keep the surname Dessalines and had been taken under the wing of Louverture. At the culmination of the revolution in 1803, Louverture had been captured, and Dessalines was one of the three generals that lead the decisive victory blow to Napoleon's forces (yes, THAT Napoleon) and went on to promulgate a declaration of independence in 1804 and declare himself the emperor.

    Quite the ride. To top it off at the end of it he made Haiti the first country in the Americas to abolish slavery and establish the west’s first free Black republic. That fully justifies the honor of having the national anthem named after him because it’s one of the best things people have done. Unfortunately the second act for Dessalines is not very attractive, as happens an awful lot with great men. Dessalines initially offered amnesty and protection to the former slave owners and others that might have been considered enemies of the regime. But Jean-Jacque had lead a hard life full of abuse for him and everyone he cared for. It seems it made him hard too and he had between 3,000 and 5,000 white people of all ages killed, including people that were not enemies of the revolution. I obviously can’t condone all the killing but they were people that thought owning other people was just fine and he was a literal slave for 33 years. I’ll never understand what that felt like. However, Dessalines took it further and instituted an autocratic regime that was essentially slavery with wages. This splintered the movement’s power base and got the first Haitian Emperor assassinated in 1806 after barely 2 years in power. Regardless, if there was a guy to write a national anthem about Jean-Jacque Dessaline certainly fits the bill. Alright buckle up, we’re taking another time leap.

    On to the end of the 19th century where in the 1870’s the men that wrote the lyrics and music for La Dessalinienne. In the ensuing 60 something years since the death of the Jean-Jacques Dessalines Haiti had been in a time period characterized more by it’s instability than anything else. It’s a fascinating section of history that we’re going to discuss absolutely none of actually, it’s not germane to the story. Following a brief period where there were two coups and four presidents in less than a decade Haiti ended the 1870s by finally signing a treaty with the Dominican Republic. They share the island of Hispaniola with them and part of the history we skipped is a bunch of war to try and take the entire thing over. The remaining two decades of the 1800’s saw a good deal of modernization of the infrastructure and the economy. The beginning saw a president resigning and the United States providing Pierre Alexis a naval blockade so he can take power in 1902

    The folks that wrote the national anthem were, and mostly still are, not well known at all outside of Haiti. In my reading about anthems (of which there is MUCH) this is developing as a trend. Almost none of these guys, and the creators I’ve read about so far all men, are world famous. I was surprised by this at first. In their home country though? Not household names but notable enough that they’re in history books and the average citizen probably at least knows their name. As a note it seems that it’s pretty typical for the music and lyrics to have separate authors. This is probably only a surprise to me because I’m more of an enthusiastic amateur about music than anything approaching an expert.

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What's the story with national anthems? Well, that depends entirely on the anthem. From the wildly mundane to the historically significant and every what else. In each episode I'll tell the story of a song that helps to tell the story of a nation. The connections between them will be a surprise and if I've figured this out you will be entertained.