The Art Law Podcast

Katie and Steve speak with Ben Zhao, Neubauer Professor of Computer Science at the University of Chicago, about the impact of generative AI systems on working artists and the visual arts ecosystem, the economic and technical challenges, recent litigation and legislative advocacy to limit the impact of generative AI on human creators, and the creation of technical tools to protect human creatives against generative AI use.

Notes for this episode: https://artlawpodcast.com/2026/09/01/the-threat-of-generative-ai-to-artists/

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Steve and Katie speak with their colleague and return guest Tom Kline and special guest Victoria Reed, the renowned Provenance Curator at the MFA Boston, about the status of provenance research and ownership review at US museums and also the first of its kind agreement between MFA Boston and the descendants of enslaved potter David Drake (aka Dave the Potter) resolving the ownership of two of Drake's monumental stoneware vessels.

Notes for this episode: https://artlawpodcast.com/2026/06/15/museum-provenance-curation-and-david-drake-the-potter/

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Katie and Steve speak with esteemed copyright lawyer Nancy Wolff about the Ninth Circuit case Sedlik v. Von Drachenberg, in which photographer Jeffrey Sedlik sued celebrity tattoo artist Kat Von D for copyright infringement related to her inking a copy of his photographic portrait of Miles Davis on a friend's arm and publicizing the process on social media. They discuss the Ninth Circuit's unique approach to copyright infringement in applying a subjective (jury-determined) test for substantial similarity based on "total concept and feel" and how that test may be in conflict with basic and established copyright principals.

Notes for this episode: https://artlawpodcast.com/2026/04/27/ninth-circuit-greenlights-tattoo-copying-of-photographs-of-miles-davis-at-least/

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Katie and Steve continue discussing the Barnes Foundation with attorney Ralph Wellington, who represented the Barnes Foundation during its successful but extremely controversial multi-year effort to amend its founding documents and create a new arts education center in Philadelphia. They discuss the origins of the Foundation, its governing documents, financial struggles, and evolution over the many decades since Albert Barnes' death in 1951, as well as the legal doctrines at play in "breaking" the terms Barnes created for the Foundation.

Notes for this episode: https://artlawpodcast.com/2026/02/17/barnes-part-ii-the-legal-battles/

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Steve and Katie speak with critic and author Blake Gopnik about his new book The Maverick's Museum: Albert Barnes and His American Dream. They discuss Barnes's rise out of poverty to the heights of modern art collecting and his progressive societal priorities, namely the foundation he started to educate common people through a formalist approach to modern art. This foundation, like Barnes himself, became mired in controversy and a victim of Barnes's desire to have complete control after his death. Part II will be released next month and will focus on the legal battles involving the Foundation after Barnes's death, culminating in the Foundation's transformation to a public museum in a new building in downtown Philadelphia.

Notes for this episode: https://artlawpodcast.com/2026/01/05/albert-barnes-part-i-the-controversial-man-and-his-foundation/

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Steve and Katie talk with fellow art lawyer Maggie Hoag about her journey from art to law and then to art law, including her transition from private practice to a long career as a top lawyer at Christie's in New York. They discuss the nature of legal work at a major auction house and how the practice and industry has changed over time.

Notes for this episode: https://artlawpodcast.com/2025/11/12/art-law-at-christies-with-maggie-hoag/

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Steve and Katie speak with art market regulatory and compliance expert Jane Levine about the state of anti-money laundering regulations in the art world and the efficacy and limitations of new legislation proposed in the United States.

Notes for this episode: https://artlawpodcast.com/2025/10/14/the-art-market-integrity-act-are-aml-regulations-finally-coming-to-the-us-art-market/

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Katie and Steve speak with Swiss art lawyer Florian Schmidt-Gabain about Switzerland's (very) recent establishment of an "Independent Committee for Cultural Property with a Burdened Past" that will hear ownership disputes about Nazi-looted art as well cultural property acquired during the colonial era. They discuss why it has taken the Swiss so long to establish a process like this, the unique role of Switzerland during WWII, the challenges of the mostly voluntary and non-binding process, and the many questions that remain open as implementation unfolds.

Notes for this episode: https://artlawpodcast.com/2025/09/04/switzerland-starts-to-address-cultural-property-with-a-burdened-past/

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Steve and Katie talk with Professor Stephen Urice and Judge Simon Frankel about their careers in art law, art law teaching, and their authorship of the 6th edition of the renowned art law textbook "Law, Ethics, and the Visual Arts." They talk about art law as an academic subject, how to teach and present art law to students, and the experience of updating and rewriting an iconic textbook originally written by the founder of art law teaching, John Henry Merryman.

Notes for this episode: https://artlawpodcast.com/2025/07/29/teaching-art-law/

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Katie and Steve discuss the recent decision by the New York Supreme Court granting the Manhattan District Attorney request for a turnover order directing the Art Institute of Chicago to return a drawing by Egon Schiele, "Russian War Prisoner," that the museum acquired in 1966. Katie and Steve review the history of the ownership of the drawing by Fritz Grünbaum, a cabaret singer who was killed by the Nazis in 1941, and the legal proceedings involving his art collection leading up to this controversial decision.

Notes for this episode: https://artlawpodcast.com/2025/07/01/an-update-on-the-manhattan-das-turnover-proceeding-against-the-art-institute-of-chicago/

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