In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Sikora, María José Munita, Seth "Creek" Creekmore and Lee Fields recap last week’s episode with Christian McClain. María José and Lee share their hypotheses from their initial listen of the episode, and Mario provides a more in-depth look into his thought process in determining Christian’s Enneagram type.

“Expect that there will be confirmation bias. Expect that you’re looking for both of these components and they might be in conflict with one another, and so hold room in your mind that you’re not precisely sure what you’re seeing until you have disconfirming confirmation.” -Lee [13:42]

“Treat it as entertainment that you can learn some skills from and understand a little bit more about how the game is played.” -Creek [16:16]

“Look, you just have to master the fundamentals of this. You have to understand what these instinctual biases are really all about, and what these strategies are really all about, and what really happens related to the connecting points. Not what we read about in the books.” -Mario [25:50]

“In my mind, I need to pay attention to the things that are being said and not get trapped into my initial hypothesis.” -María José [32:37]

TIMESTAMPS

[00:01] Intro

[02:13] MJ’s conclusion

[04:09] Conflicting combinations

[09:23] The importance of the instinctual bias

[16:23] Some of Mario’s fundamental principles

[17:51] Why not these types?

[24:52] Master the fundamentals

[32:21] Types not considered

[36:55] The connecting points

[43:46] The neglected strategy of Three

[46:53] More tips for people to consider

[54:25] Outro

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In this special episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Seth "Creek" Creekmore and Mario Sikora are joined by Christian McClain, a songwriter and musician, for an exercise that determines someone’s Enneagram type. Mario conducts a typing interview, talking to Christian and asking him questions about his career and family to try to understand who he is. Mario then shares his thought process towards his provisional hypothesis as a result of this conversation.

“I’m getting to know Christian in a different way, which is fun.” -Creek [17:16]

“My goal when I’m talking to people is just to get them to talk. And I don’t care what they talk about or where they go, I just want them to talk.” -Mario [17:53]

“I think putting something and leaving something behind, it sounds silly, because no one knows who I am as an artist. I’m not a big deal, but to know that there is something, a little piece of me, a journal entry that was put to music, to know that that’s out in the world, it’s kind of nice to know that there’s something that would live past you.” -Christian [26:07] 

TIMESTAMPS

[00:01] Intro

[00:19] This week’s guest, Christian

[01:02] This week’s exercise

[03:34] What listeners should look out for

[05:16] Getting to know Christian

[16:51] Seth’s thoughts and Mario’s goal

[18:05] More about Christian

[27:06] A few of Mario’s observations

[30:27] Disconfirming questions

[34:32] Mario’s process

[36:37] A moment to gather your thoughts

[37:27] Mario’s provisional hypothesis

[47:09] Suggestions and feedback

[52:39] Where to find Christian’s music

[54:35] Outro

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In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, María José Munita, Seth "Creek" Creekmore and Lee Fields talk about an exercise they conducted during their recent Instinctual Biases and Subtypes Weekend Workshop. The hosts explain some of the takeaways and common themes they observed from asking the participants to plan a party. Listen as they summarize how this reveals a clear representation of the instinctual biases and insight into the dynamics between them.

“You lose so much in the digital realm. And I think I was just reminded with the workshop of like theory is interesting, but it’s so boring and dead unless you actually get to work with it and observe it and interact in person with it. I think that it just kind of made it come alive to me in a different way.” -Creek [11:10]

“Is this party going to happen? And will it be fun? It’s a complimentary nature that you need all of the pieces to be represented, but different things will be highlighted if that group is solely in charge of the actual outcome.” -Lee [15:52]

“And that’s the main takeaway from all the groups that I’ve worked with, it’s that I can now see the value of having these three domains considered, and I can also see how some of these truly bother me. I look at it and I just find it not compelling, not interesting, not important, but I can understand that it’s important. I can understand that we need to have them all.” - María José [30:07]

TIMESTAMPS

[00:02] Intro

[01:08] Most hilarious moment in Nashville

[03:13] MJ and Lee explain the exercise

[07:53] The dynamics and what stood out

[11:35] The point of the exercise

[13:46] Typical takeaways between three groups

[16:31] Strategies for relationships

[20:47] Common themes among the instinctual biases

[32:10] How Pattern of Expression plays into this

[38:14] Outro

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In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Sikora and María José Munita and Seth "Creek" Creekmore host their first live Q and A podcast, answering questions from their recent Instinctual Biases and Subtypes Weekend Workshop in Nashville.

“I used to get frustrated because our materials would change every time we changed a concept, an idea, the way in which we thought about something. Now I see it as a strength, because it means that we are challenging our own ideas, and not staying stuck into what we think because it’s printed. Because we already taught it. We’re not identified with those ideas.” - María José [26:34]

“I think what I’ve experienced as I’ve come into ATA more is that this model and these words tend to capture a more broader explanation of this phenomena of my human existence. And that doesn’t mean that the others are wrong. I’ve just found personally that this terminology captures more and gives more flexibility for me to have my own personal expression of who it is to be me with my own personal story.” -Creek [27:20]

“Everything we teach applies to every aspect in your life. We just tend to contextualize it in organizational life. And my view is if any idea I have doesn’t pass muster with a critical audience, then I shouldn’t be teaching it. So it’s almost like that’s the litmus test. If it’ll work here, it’ll work anywhere. But it’s really no different than things you would apply in your regular life.” -Mario [37:58]

TIMESTAMPS

[00:01] Intro

[01:06] Describing strategies

[02:40] The connecting points and instinctual biases

[14:31] Applying the ATA approach to your life

[18:12] Recommended reads

[21:24] An ​​ecumenical approach

[31:42] Conversations with other schools and teachers

[36:31] Plans for a new book?

[40:33] Questioning things

[43:15] Most grateful for with the Enneagram

[47:18] Outro

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In this special episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Sikora and María José Munita check in with Seth "Creek" Creekmore and hear his perspective on the Awareness to Action Enneagram approach. As Creek as worked with Mario and María José for the last few years, he shares the impact this different approach has had on him as well as his thoughts, observations and lingering questions.

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In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Sikora, Seth "Creek" Creekmore and Lee Fields start their series on the vices, virtues and fixations. Vices, or passions, are usually associated as the opposite of virtues and are the emotional reactions to the loss of the essential virtues. Fixations are the mental reaction to this loss. The three hosts first discuss the origin and evolution of these terms before they get more specific with the nine different Enneagram types and how it fits with the core qualities.

“The vice, or the fixation, could develop because of a loss of contact with the virtue, or it could be from a loss of contact with God, or it can be a loss of contact with the healthy ego. So whenever we feel the loss of something, we need to fill it in with something else, and so that’s one way of thinking about these things.” -Mario [15:11]

“Coemergent doesn’t mean that they magically appear or they’re already implanted in us or anything. How we develop is through nature, nurture, the whole thing, and even nature and nurture is a duality that I’m learning is not exactly accurate.” -Creek [27:29]

“Sometimes, you really need anger, but overidentifying with it or using it maladaptively is where the struggle comes in.” -Lee [29:51]

TIMESTAMPS

[00:01] Intro

[01:17] The vices, virtues and fixations

[04:28] Things that are objectively wrong

[10:00] The origin and evolution of the terms

[20:04] Defining terms

[22:10] How it fits with the core quality

[26:57] Coemergent doesn’t mean innate

[30:51] All ideas evolve

[34:37] What are they good for?

[45:49] Action steps

[47:25] Outro

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In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Sikora returns to discuss the core quality at Enneagram Point Nine–benevolence–with María José Munita and Seth "Creek" Creekmore.

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In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, María José Munita, Seth "Creek" Creekmore and Lee Fields continue their discussion of the neglected strategies by exploring Enneagram Point Five through Nine. They talk about the dynamics between the connecting points for these type strategies and share practical tips that integrate the neglected strategy in a more adaptive way.

TIMESTAMPS

[00:00] Intro

[05:53] Point Five’s neglected strategy

[09:59] Changing the narrative

[15:49] It’s always something small

[17:37] Point Six’s neglected strategy

[25:38] Go to sleep earlier

[28:45] Point Seven’s neglected strategy

[33:05] Take time for yourself

[35:23] Point Eight’s neglected strategy

[41:51] That must be hard

[43:55] Point Nine’s neglected strategy

[48:12] Outro

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In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Lee Fields joins María José Munita and Seth "Creek" Creekmore to discuss the neglected strategies for Enneagram Type One through Four. The neglected strategy is the connecting point that people neglect to use at a time when they should, so they share practical tips to help try to integrate the neglected strategy back into their life.

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Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

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In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, María José Munita gives insight into her personal and working life with Seth "Creek" Creekmore and special guest, Lee Fields. She shares what it was like growing up in Santiago, Chile and how it played into her introduction into the Enneagram. She also talks about her time on the IEA board and her collaboration with Mario Sikora.

“So that’s one of the reasons why the ATA approach started making sense to me, because it was a mindset. It’s not just Enneagram theory. It’s a mindset that I really resonate with and like.” -María José [19:27]

“You sort of touched on or what I’m hearing is something around satisfaction. That there’s more freedom or ease or satisfaction with your present and presumably future self than your past self.” -Lee [22:14]

“Our impulse is always to run from the contradictions and uncertainties, and I think it’s those who are voraciously curious, that their curiosity gets the better of them. To like, I think I can manage this a bit longer, and a bit longer and all of the sudden you’re like oh, yeah, this other side isn’t so bad.” -Creek [40:30]

TIMESTAMPS

[00:00] Intro

[00:20] This week’s guest, Lee Fields

[01:35] MJ’s upbringing in Chile

[07:29] Exploration of personal growth

[12:05] Three teachable moments

[19:42] Do her kids know about the Enneagram?

[21:09] Satisfaction with present and future self

[23:47] How MJ came to the Enneagram

[27:57] The IEA board and meeting Mario

[33:01] Deciding to collaborate with Mario

[36:32] What informs her approach

[41:00] Teaching critical thinking

[44:55] Outro

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