Shelley Moore — Vancouver, BC–based inclusive education consultant, teacher, researcher, speaker, and storyteller. She’s the author of One Without the Other, a follow‑up to her TEDx talk “Under the Table,” and the creator/host of the Five Moore Minutes video series and companion podcast. Shelley works with school districts and community organizations across Canada and the United States.

In this episode of Think Incluive, Tim Villegas talks with Shelley Moore about her path into special education and why inclusion matters. Shelley explains her Plan A / Plan B framing (every student belongs with their grade‑level peers as “Plan A,” with supports and temporary breaks as needed—but with a clear path back), contrasts BC/Canada’s less‑standardized approach with U.S. systems, and unpacks her now‑famous baked potato metaphor for strategic planning that keeps rigor high while widening access.

Complete show notes and transcript: https://mcie.org/think-inclusive/shelley-moore-what-is-all-the-fuss-about-baked-potatoes/