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Ken and Carla reflect on Grandparenthood and Fathers Day. They pick up on the close of the highly covered SBC Convention and unpack some surprise votes - and how CRT (Critical Race Theory) has been targeted and exploited - and the attempts to minimize the sex abuse claims within the denomination. The New York mayoral race highlights tension in many cities across the nation where calls for "defunding the police" face considerable resistance with an increase in crime. Andrew Yang is out of the running. Arkansas' governor's contest pits a highly regarded Chris Jones against Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Carla brings us up to date with Secretary Pete, and the nation celebrates Juneteenth - now a national holiday.

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Soon-to-be-Grandma Carla talks about the impact that newly audible heartbeat. Ken shares his PICK ONE decision and 2022 plan. Val Demings, Michael Garcia and Tim Ryan get honorable mention in the context of the high stakes of the coming mid-term elections. The Southern Baptist Convention wraps up this week with a high profile in the national news - largely representative of the white evangelical influence on public policy. CRT (race) and sexual abuse are on the ballot. Carla comments on the founding of the SBC in 1844-45, quoting long time friend, historian Mark Noll. To our surprise, this week, the SBC conference elected a "moderate," Rev. Ed Litton. A seminary professor challenges Ken to be "disruptive." President Joe Biden visits the Queen at the Windsor Palace and European leaders for the G7 gathering. Carla leaves us with a visit to her "happy place" ... a lovely local garden where she finds restoration and a neighbor who reminds her of the goodness of the American people. Ken recites from Rudyard Kipling.

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Big announcement from Carla! This Beach Talk gets personal. Ken and Carla pull up a chair on the beach to talk about life's wonderful surprises - surprises that motivate us to work toward a better world. They agree - Reveal Parties are risky business. Carla introduces her commitment to the PICK ONE plan - and she shares her picks:  Tim Ryan preparing for his Senate race in Ohio. Ryan is known for his powerful reprimand on the house floor of Republican naysayers. Florida's Congresswoman Val Demings, former Police Chief of Orlando also gets high marks from Carla for her 2022 challenge of Marco Rubio. California's Congressman Mike Garcia should be defeated in 2022. Secretary Pete is the subject of a major article in THE ATLANTIC that expounds on his work on the infrastructure plan and his aspiration for the years ahead. Joe Manchin seems to be enjoying the spotlight as a roadblock; Ken and Carla explore the politics of West Virginia that push the Senator toward resolute inaction. They kick around the impact of the filibuster and the absence of bi-partisanship for decades in Washington. They close with a review of the KENNEDY CENTER HONORS: Joan Baez, Dick VanDyke, Debbie Allen (iconic choreographer), Midori (virtuoso violinist), and Garth Brooks.

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Ken welcomes back creator and host of the Straight White American Jesus Podcast, Dr. Bradley Onishi. Brad has been professor of religion at Skidmore College (upstate New York) and was chosen to deliver the commencement address, along with Cornell West. Brad's New York Times article, Trump's New Civil Religion gave Brad a powerful new platform. Ken and Brad cover many topics including Christian Nationalism, the investigations into the January 6 insurrection, Biblical Womanhood, Rick Warren and Saddleback Church, deconstruction, Critical Race Theory and Israel's battle over Benjamin Netanyahu's role as Prime Minister. Best of all, they celebrate Brad's announcement of great personal changes for this year. Big news! SHOW NOTES

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Blake Chastain is back! In this rebroadcast, the creator and host of #Exvangelical, a very popular podcast. It focusses on the stories of people who have been raised in staunch evangelical traditions and then found themselves in a classic “crisis of faith.” Blake created the podcast and then the hashtag - which went viral. It caught the attention of CBS, who produced a documentary entitled “Deconstructing my Religion.” In this podcast, Blake shares his own story and the crisis that led to a period of deconstruction. Blake introduces the new series he has just launched on Christian Nationalism. Blake is the founder of the new association of podcasts called The Irreverent Media Group.  SHOW  NOTES.

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Carla admits to a dark mood this week and Ken works to cheer her up. Secretary Pete appeared on three Sunday morning network programs. What is our country - a democracy or a republic? Michael Flynn hatched another fantasy about an August coup, reinstating our former President in the near future. Carla connects the dots. NYT The Daily on The Burning of Black Tulsa. A TicToK video takes on Critical Race Theory and gains hundreds of thousands of views. Joe Manchin's home state of West Virginia offers free guns as a reward for vaccines. Teenage girl vs. brown bear in California, and Ken discloses his close encounter with a rattler (PHOTO). Melanie Stansbury wins big in New Mexico. Our talk cheers Carla up.

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Ken and Carla compare notes reflecting on the year since George Floyd was murdered. It's also the 100 Year Anniversary of the Tulsa Race Massacre and time for us all to pay attention to a history that's been covered up. They respond to those who would discount and silence Critical Race Theory. Carla puts in a plug for a worthy project in the UK called Friendless Churches. On the eve of the release of the "God Bless the USA Bible," Zondervan gives in to objections cancels what some have called and American Apocrypha. The Secretary Pete update includes his inspiring visit to a major construction site - The Plane Train in Atlanta. They close with personal reflections on Memorial Day - they talk about their Dads. 

Edition #105

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The Two Kens are back and as two former pastors, kick around the notion of "Biblical Authority" that dominates much of the discussion today around gender, hierarchy, racism, LGBTQ+, religious certainty and even Christian nationalism. To start, they talk about Ken Fong's incredible shots of the Milky Way over Joshua Tree National Monument, past midnight. One of Fong's many hobbies is astrophotography. They swap stories from their days as pastors - including pre-marital counseling. Ken Fong shares the moving account of his participation in a tragic memorial service just a few weeks ago in the aftermath of a lamentable suicide. They agree, there are deep spiritual lessons for us all under that night sky.

Asian America: the Ken Fong Podcast

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Ken and Carla are back on the beach. They review Carla's CA visit. Carla is a big fan of the octopus (My Octopus Teacher) and Gold Leaf South Park. Topics today: Trump Organization under criminal investigation; the Supreme Court takes up the Mississippi case on abortion (Carla weighs in); Russell Moore leaves the SBC for Christianity Today; the Billy Graham documentary biography on American Experience (featuring Nancy Gibb, Jemar Tisby, John Huffman, Anthea Butler, Grant Wacker, Leighton Ford and others); founder of Hillsong Church, Brian Houston interviewed re: the departure of Pastor Carl Lentz. President Joe Biden takes a test drive in an electric Ford 150. Secretary Pete leaves us with a sense of confidence and hope for the future. 

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Ken welcomes Carla to his home in Southern California. They share some of the highlights of the visit and then move on to the stories of the week including the announcement by President Biden and VP Kamala Harris regarding masks for the vaccinated. They salute Liz Cheney for her strong stand against her party's dogged loyalty to the former president - the unlikely rise of Elise Stafanik. They review Ken's interview with Dr. Kristin Du Mez and her friend Dr. Beth Allison Barr's new book: The Making of Biblical Womanhood. In light of the Mother's Day ordination of three women at SBC Saddleback Church (Pastor Rick Warren), they, along with Beth Moore, have challenged the Southern Baptist Convention. Carla brings an update on Secretary Pete and his "impact on the stock market." Finally, they take a stroll through the rose gardens at the Huntington Library in San Marino.

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