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By Julian Issa
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How close are we to AGI? This episode is brought to you by AgelessRx, where aging becomes a puzzle that can be solved. The mission is to help you live longer and healthier by adding more life to your years through science-backed solutions and personalized care. Learn more at http://agelessrx.com/beyond-tomorrow The race toward AGI is entering a new phase. Ben Goertzel explores alternative paths to intelligence beyond simply building bigger models. The conversation also examines the global AI race. The U.S. and China are competing for technological leadership. But the future of AI may not remain centralized. Then comes the bigger question: what happens after superintelligence? Goertzel imagines AI that could protect humanity. It could even help overcome aging, disease, and other human limitations. Ben Goertzel is an AI researcher, futurist, and CEO of SingularityNET and BGI Labs. Widely recognized as one of the pioneers of Artificial General Intelligence, he has spent more than two decades developing decentralized AI systems designed to benefit humanity. What You’ll LearnWhy the AI revolution may be bigger than previous technological shiftsHow AI could become an extension of human intelligenceWhy agency may matter more than machine consciousnessHow the brain creates a simulated model of realityWhether consciousness could emerge on different substratesWhy AI alignment is also a problem of human alignmentHow AI could help humanity become smarter and more coherent ⏱ Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:07 What Happens in the Next 12 Months? 03:41 Why China Is Catching Up 07:36 Why China Wants AI Control 10:18 Can Governments Control AI? 13:02 Human-Level AGI vs Superintelligence 15:35 Will ASI be Chinese or American? 17:47 The Next Breakthrough to AGI 21:05 How AI Could Become More Intelligent 22:23 Why Language Powers AI 27:33 Can Decentralized AI Change Everything? 32:23 The Global Race vs Decentralized AI 36:22 Would Superintelligence Protect Humanity? 40:19 Can We Build Compassionate AGI? 46:27 Why AI Arms Races Are Dangerous 51:14 Why Governments Shouldn’t Control AI 53:17 Can the Government Keep Up With AI? 54:00 Will Open AI Challenge Big Tech? 55:12 The Future of Decentralized AI 56:27 Could 2045 Arrive by 2028? Connect with Ben Website: https://singularitynet.io/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bengoertzel X: https://x.com/bengoertzel Connect with Julian Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebeyondtomorrowpodcast/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/juliankissa/ LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/julian-issa Website: www.beyondtomorrowpodcast.com Email: [email protected] Subscribe on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube for more stories from the edge of what is possible.

What happens when the technology we build becomes smarter than the people who built it? This episode is brought to you by AgelessRx, where aging becomes a puzzle that can be solved. The mission is to help you live longer and healthier by adding more life to your years through science-backed solutions and personalized care. Learn more at http://agelessrx.com/beyond-tomorrow AI safety researcher Roman Yampolskiy argues the real danger isn't AI, it's building a superintelligence we can no longer control. His case: solve problems with narrow, powerful tools instead, and still get breakthroughs in medicine, science, and productivity, without that risk. The conversation covers AGI, recursive self-improvement, the singularity, and the existential and "suffering" risks they raise, plus what mass automation could mean for work and purpose. From international AI agreements to human longevity, one question runs through it all: can we get the benefits of advanced AI without losing control of it? Yampolskiy's answer: keep building tools, not our replacement. Roman Yampolskiy is an AI safety researcher and professor who studies the risks and implications of artificial intelligence. His work focuses on the challenge of controlling increasingly capable AI systems and the potential consequences of superintelligence. Roman’s book, AI: Unexplainable, Unpredictable, Uncontrollable, explores the various reasons why the field is so challenging. ⏱ Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:43 Can We Build AI By Design to Avoid Catastrophe? 01:49 AI Superintelligence Is a Death Sentence 03:12 What Is AGI, Really? 04:26 OpenAI's Plan to Build an Internal AGI 04:59 Why Superintelligence Won't Care About Us 06:45 We're Going to Die Anyway... So What? 07:06 We Can't Control Something This Advanced 07:55 The Narrow Tools That Avoid AGI 09:34 The US vs China AI Race 10:47 Does China Actually Want to Stop AGI? 11:53 AGI Is a Spectrum, Not a Switch 12:22 Is Roman Selling the Doom Narrative? 14:13 How to Stop AGI From Escaping the Box 16:26 Building AI We Can't Control 18:05 Suffering Risks: The Worst-Case Scenario 20:09 The Two Types of Jobs 22:09 What Happens to the 90% Who Lose Their Jobs? 23:46 Nothing Makes AI Labs Stop 24:26 Building Something You Can't Control 26:06 Do You Believe in God? 29:28 Longevity Escape Velocity Without AGI 30:55 Is Suffering Necessary for the Human Story? 31:33 Are We Living in a Simulation? 32:12 You Can't Control Superintelligence 33:24 Is Our Life a Simulation? 35:05 Curing Aging With Narrow AI Tools 36:10 What Is an NPC? 36:37 Could Humans Cause Doom Before AI Does? 37:21 How to Break Out of a Simulation 39:14 Would You Live Forever in a Simulation? 40:01 Don't Build Superintelligence 41:50 Bostrom's Singleton Theory 43:17 "AI Is Massively Overhyped" 44:56 Would AI Doom Be Worse Than World War 3? 45:41 Who Should You Actually Be Listening To? 47:43 What Would a Perfect Simulation Look Like? 50:52 Solving Longevity Without AI 52:03 Our Limited Understanding of Human Biology 52:40 What Makes Roman Happy? 53:48 Signs Governments Are Waking Up 55:14 "Is AI Just a Con?" 56:53 Can Squirrels Control Humans? 58:27 Decide What to Do With Your Time 59:22 What About Ilya Sutskever? 01:00:13 The Responsible Use of Technology 01:00:46 If Tomorrow is Your Last Day... Connect with Roman: Website: https://www.romanyampolskiy.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/roman.yampolskiy/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/romanyam/ X: https://x.com/romanyam Connect with Julian Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebeyondtomorrowpodcast/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/juliankissa/ LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/julian-issa Website: www.beyondtomorrowpodcast.com Email: [email protected] Get exciting updates from The Beyond Tomorrow Podcast here: https://dlogos.xyz/podcasts/the-beyond-tomorrow-podcast-with-julian-issa-7bf16e9d

What if the Singularity isn’t coming but already here? This episode is brought to you by AgelessRx, where aging becomes a puzzle that can be solved. The mission is to help you live longer and healthier by adding more life to your years through science-backed solutions and personalized care. Learn more at http://agelessrx.com/beyond-tomorrow AI is accelerating breakthroughs across science, medicine, and technology at a pace once considered impossible. Peter Diamandis believes the next 5–10 years could redefine what humanity can achieve. Yet AI’s promise is competing with fear, disruption, and dystopian narratives. The challenge is not only building the future, but shaping how people imagine it. For Peter Diamandis, the answer is actionable optimism: identify the risks, believe they can be solved, and pursue the biggest moonshots. Longevity, education, and space could become the foundations of a radically different future. Peter Diamandis is an entrepreneur, physician, and founder of XPRIZE and Singularity University. He is a leading advocate for moonshot thinking and breakthrough technologies. ⏱ Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:10 The Blinding Speed of Change 02:06 A Future Where Anything Is Possible 04:06 Why Is the West Afraid of AI? 08:39 Why Fear AI? 10:23 AGI Is Already Here 11:37 Blind Optimism vs. Actionable Optimism 13:01 The Next Great Moonshot 14:01 The Rise of an Alien-Looking Economy 15:10 Who Will Win the XPRIZE? 15:46 If Tomorrow Was Your Last Day... Connect with Peter: Website: https://www.diamandis.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/PeterDiamandis/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterdiamandis/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peterdiamandis X: https://x.com/peterdiamandis YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@peterdiamandis Connect with Julian Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebeyondtomorrowpodcast/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/juliankissa/ LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/julian-issa Website: www.beyondtomorrowpodcast.com Email: [email protected] Subscribe on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube for more stories from the edge of what is possible.

Ramesh Raskar explains how artificial intelligence is evolving and why the coming phase may be critical for its long-term impact on society. He discusses the role of economic systems in guiding responsible innovation and the importance of moving from simply using AI tools to actively participating in their development and governance. Watch the full episode here: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5zyaecyejQCgbCQ2t2uTt5?si=faf738a4f4ea4a9d

Could AI redefine what it means to be human or put humanity itself at risk? This episode is brought to you by NADclinic.com, the go-to destination for longevity and human performance. Check out their new NADair, a next-gen, precision breath-activated NAD⁺ wellness system using multi-patented DPI technology: https://nadairx.com/ As AI races toward AGI, Emad Mostaque explores the biggest questions facing humanity. He explains why the next few years could determine whether AI becomes humanity's greatest tool or its greatest threat. From the future of work to AI governance, personhood, quantum computing, and longevity, Emad paints a future where intelligence becomes abundant. But he warns that without the right incentives and safeguards, that future could quickly turn dystopian. He also shares why he believes AGI is much closer than most people expect and why building AI that serves humanity is the most important challenge ahead. Emad Mostaque is the founder of Intelligent Internet, which is combating corporate tech monopolies and now pioneering decentralized, sovereign, and verifiable AI architectures. He is an Oxford-educated mathematician, former quantitative hedge fund manager and tech entrepreneur who founded Stability AI and launched Stable Diffusion. What You’ll LearnWhy Emad Thinks AGI Is Only a Few Years AwayThe Choice Between AI Abundance and DystopiaWhy AI Should Never Be Granted PersonhoodHow Decentralized AI Could Protect HumanityWhy AI Could Solve Most Diseases Within a DecadeHow Quantum Computing Will Supercharge AIWhat the Singularity Means for Humanity ⏱ Timestamps 00:00 Intro 00:11 What It Really Means to Be Human 01:31 Why Systems Always Overoptimize 03:28 Intelligence at the Edge 05:44 Will AI Require a License? 07:34 The AI Duopoly Problem 08:35 Why AI Can't Become a Person 11:23 Can AI Replicate Itself? 15:57 AI Doomers vs Optimists 20:15 How Do We Save Humanity? 21:35 What Should We Teach AI? 25:08 Can Good AI Stop Bad AI? 27:47 AGI vs ASI Explained 30:08 Who Wins the AGI Race? 31:31 Small Changes, Massive Impact 32:52 The Last Human Discoveries 35:01 Can AI Become Conscious? 39:10 What AI Does Better Than Humans 43:09 Why Quantum Changes Everything 44:44 Where to Invest in the AI Era 46:52 Life After ASI 48:50 Will AI Judge Humanity? 51:09 The Inevitable AI Future 53:50 Universal High Income 56:07 Owning AI Instead of Jobs 57:48 The Rise of a Service Economy 01:00:09 Why Human Purpose Will Change 01:01:45 Why Family Matters More Than Ever 01:04:02 Finding Meaning in an AI World 01:06:01 The Value of Human Intelligence 01:07:52 Why Curiosity Still Wins 01:09:49 Be Creative, Embrace Technology 01:12:11 Why Are We Born? 01:13:00 Emad's Best Advice 01:19:16 AI and the End of Work 01:21:48 Ending Human Suffering 01:26:26 A World Run by AI 01:27:49 If Tomorrow is Your Last Day... Connect with Emad Website: https://ii.inc/ LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/emad-mostaque-9840ba274 X: https://x.com/EMostaque Connect with Julian Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebeyondtomorrowpodcast/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/juliankissa/ LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/julian-issa Website: www.beyondtomorrowpodcast.com Email: [email protected] Subscribe on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube for more stories from the edge of what is possible.
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