This episode is a collaboration with The Climate Conversation podcast, which is produced by the Environmental and Energy Study Institute (EESI). Hosts Dan Bresette and Emma Johnson interviewed Keefe Keeley, Savanna Institute's executive director, and Tucker Gretebeck, an organic dairy farmer, about how they got into agroforestry and what they're hoping to see in this year's Farm Bill. You can learn more and listen to the full episode at EESI's website, www.eesi.org.