In this episode of Whiplash, Max and Emma speak with Dr. Jason Steidl Jack, theologian, historian, and author of LGBTQ Catholic Ministry: Past and Present. Jason traces the long and often overlooked history of queer Catholic ministry in the United States — from early communities like DignityUSA to today’s ongoing efforts to build spaces of belonging within and beyond the Church. He reflects on his own journey from evangelical roots to Catholicism, and the movement from loneliness to communion through the witness of queer saints, past and present.

Together, they explore what it means to build bridges that don’t demand assimilation, how queer Catholics have reshaped the Church through resilience and love, and why recovering diverse stories — including those of trans Catholics, queer women, and people of color — is essential to imagining a more just and joyful Church.