"The Cognitive Revolution"

In this episode, Nathan sits down with Itamar Friedman, CEO of Codium AI, the company on the mission to create the code integrity paradigm. They discuss harnessing LLMs for code integrity, task decomposition, workflow engineering, and much more. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

X/SOCIAL:

@labenz (Nathan)

@itamar_mar (Itamar)

@CodiumAI (Sodium)

LINKS:

Codium: https://www.codium.ai/

Cognitive Revolution Feed: https://cognitiverevolution.ai/

SPONSORS:

Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitive

Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com

The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

ODF is where top founders get their start. Apply to join the next cohort and go from idea to conviction-fast. ODF has helped over 1000 companies like Traba, Levels and Finch get their start. Is it your turn? Go to http://beondeck.com/revolution to learn more.

TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00:00) Episode Preview

(00:06:32) The evolution of AI in software development: beyond code generation

(00:09:51) The shift towards code integrity and its impact

(00:14:23) Unveiling Alpha Codium: A leap in AI-assisted code integrity

(00:16:53) The broader impact of AI on software development processes

(00:17:11) Sponsor break: Oraclel | Omneky

(00:18:52) The future of AI in coding: enhancements, testing, and more

(00:24:41) AI's role in enhancing code quality and developer efficiency

(00:43:38) Exploring the challenges of large codebases

(00:44:03) The impact of LLM context growth on code understanding

(00:45:19) Innovative approaches to data retention and context computation

(00:46:08) Deep dive into repo analysis and future directions

(00:42:31) Personal experiences and the quest for efficient code management

(00:48:26) Dynamic graph strategies and future features in IDEs

(00:49:10) From code testing to advanced flow engineering: a new paradigm

(00:52:37) Unveiling Alpha Codium: A leap in coding challenge solutions

(01:07:31) Reflecting on workflows

(01:23:30) Final thoughts and recommendations for AI enthusiasts

The Cognitive Revolution is produced by Turpentine: a media network covering technology, business, and culture.

Producer: Vivian Meng

Editor: Graham Bessellieu

For sponsor or guest inquiries, email: [email protected]

In this episode, Nathan sits down with Will Bryk, CEO of Exa.ai. They discuss how Exa enables complex, research-based searches that differ from traditional keyword-based search, how their AI uses neural and non-neural methods, why they are using their own vector database, and more. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

LINKS:

- Exa.ai: https://exa.ai/

X/SOCIAL:

@WilliamBryk (William)

@labenz (Nathan)

@ExaAILabs (Exa)

SPONSORS:

Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) is a single platform for your infrastructure, database, application development, and AI needs. OCI has four to eight times the bandwidth of other clouds; offers one consistent price, and nobody does data better than Oracle. If you want to do more and spend less, take a free test drive of OCI at https://oracle.com/cognitive

Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com

The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

ODF is where top founders get their start. Apply to join the next cohort and go from idea to conviction-fast. ODF has helped over 1000 companies like Traba, Levels and Finch get their start. Is it your turn? Go to http://beondeck.com/revolution to learn more.

TIMESTAMPS

(00:00:00) - Preview

(00:01:52) - Exploring the landscape of information retrieval tools

(00:14:19) - Exa: AI librarian for the web

(00:15:32) - Sponsors: Oracle | Omneky

(00:16:57) - AI Project Ideas

(00:22:26) - What does search built for AI mean?

(00:25:40) - Ranking with neural and non-neural methods

(00:30:50) - Sponsors: Brave | On Deck

(00:33:13) - Best practices for Exa prompting

(00:34:01) - The power of keyword search

(00:37:26) - Breaking down complex queries

(00:34:37) - The evolution of search engines

(00:39:53) - The business side of Exa

(00:40:17) - The challenges of building a web scale index

(00:39:53) - The business side of Exa

(00:50:59) - Vector DBs

(00:58:17) - Wrap

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

In this episode, Nathan sits down with Richard Socher, CEO and Founder of You.com, a personalized AI search assistant. They discuss the rise of the AI chatbot paradigm and how that's changed the game for search, You.com's various modes, with particular emphasis on Genius mode and above all Research mode, and much more. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

LINKS:

- You.com: https://you.com/

-Richard Socher's site: https://www.socher.org/

SPONSORS:

The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com

NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.

X/SOCIAL:

@labenz

@RichardSocher (Richard)

@YouSearchEngine

@CogRev_Podcast

TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Preview

(01:38) Interview with Richard Socher: AI pioneer

(02:26) Exploring the You.com product

(02:55) The AI Bundle

(05:23) Richard Socher's journey in deep learning

(16:43) You.com comparison to competitors

(31:16) The future of AI search engines

(41:38) The changing landscape of search engines

(41:44) The impact of chatbots and AI on search

(42:16) How the market will shape up

(43:33) The power of open source

(01:02:32) The role of AI in advancing science

(51:42) The future of AI: philosophical and practical considerations

(55:06) The future of AI: risks and regulations

(01:11:07) The future of AI: agency and emergence

(01:26:57) The future of AI: retrieval, memory, and online learning

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

In this episode, Nathan sits down with Robin Hanson, associate professor of economics at George Mason University and researcher at Oxford’s Future of Humanity Institute. They discuss the comparison of human brains to LLMs and legacy software systems, what it would take for AI and automation to significantly impact the economy, our relationships with AI and the moral weight it has, and much more. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

LINKS:

SPONSORS:

The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com

NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.

X/SOCIAL:

@labenz

@robinhanson (Robin)

@CogRev_Podcast

TIMESTAMPS

(00:00) Preview

(07:10) Why our current time is a “dream time” and the move back to a Malthusian world

(13:30) What sort of world should we be striving for?

(13:40) Sponsor - Brave

(17:50) Distinguishing value talk from factual talk

(18:00) Comparing and contrasting Ems to LLMs

(22:30) The comparison of human brains to legacy software systems

(30:52) Sponsor - Netsuite

(41:01) AIs in medicine

(53:30) A several century innovation pause

(55:30) Achieving full human level AI in the next 60-90 years

(1:03:55) Chess and routine benchmarks not a good predictor of AI performance in the economy

(1:07:44) Reaching and exceeding human-level AI in the next 1000 years

(1:11:40) Losing technologies tied to scale economies

(1:12:00) Why AI is hard to maintain in the long run

(1:12:20) Standard deviation in automation

(1:14:05) Computing power grows exponentially but automation grows steadily

(1:15:50) AI art generation and deepfakes

(01:21:42) The economics of AI-powered coding

(1:33:51) Merging LLMs

(1:36:02) Rot in software and the human brain

(1:40:18) Parallelism in LLMs and brain design

(1:41:00]) Moral weight for AIs, enslavement, and cooperation with AI

(1:47:10) What would change Robin’s mind about the future

(1:49:18) Wrap

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

In this conversation, Nathan is joined by Azeem Azhar, founder and writer of the Exponential View. They discuss why startups are likely to drive the true disruption in the industry, what forward thinking leaders are doing today to retrain their teams for AI, why Azeem agrees with Sam Altman’s comments that AGI will likely arrive soon, new governance mechanisms for the AI age, and more. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

LINKS:

Exponential View: https://www.exponentialview.co/

Exponential Age, written by Azeem Azhar: https://www.amazon.com/Exponential-Age-Digital-Revolution-Rewire/dp/1635769094

X/SOCIAL:

@azeem

@labenz (Nathan)

@CogRev_Podcast 

SPONSORS:

The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com

NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.

TIMESTAMPS:

(02:34) The Great Embedding: predictions for the future of AI

(14:37) - Sponsor: Brave

(22:53) The future of AI in medicine

(25:57) The role of AI in customer service and data entry

(28:05) - Sponsors: Netsuite | Omneky

(40:45) The concept of transition and the role of big banks and tech companies

(42:13) The adoption of AI in large companies and its impact

(44:47) The potential disruption of industries by AI

(47:12) The future of AI: Opportunities and challenges

(01:18:02) The benefits and challenges of bot-to-bot communication

(01:20:54) The future of AI: Opportunities and threats

(01:22:53) The role of governance in AI development

(01:39:39) The role of trust and responsibility in AI development

(01:46:57) The importance of public trust in AI technology

(01:51:16) The need for checks and balances in AI development

(01:53:42) The role of government and academia in AI development

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

In this episode, Zvi Mowshowitz returns to the show to discuss OpenAI’s Sora model, Google’s Gemini announcement, Anthropic’s Sleeper Agents, and other live player analysis. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

Definitely also take a moment to subscribe to Zvi's blog Don't Worry About the Vase 

(https://thezvi.wordpress.com/) - Zvi is an information hyperprocessor who synthesizes vast amounts of new and ever-evolving information into extremely clear summaries that help educated people keep up with the latest news.

LINKS:

-Zvi’s Blog: https://thezvi.substack.com/

- Waymark The Frost Episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1pPiGD7cBw

-Anthropic Sleeper Agents: https://www.anthropic.com/news/sleeper-agents-training-deceptive-llms-that-persist-through-safety-training

SPONSORS:

The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com

NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.

X/Social:

@TheZvi (Zvi)

@labenz (Nathan)

@CogRev_Podcast

TIMESTAMPS:

(00:04:37) - Zvi’s feedback on the type of content the show should create

(00:05:33) - Zvi’s experience with Gemini

(00:09:42) - Speculating on Google Gemini’s launch timing

(00:12:54) - Advantages of Gemini 

(00:16:11) - Sponsors: Brave

(00:25:00) - Speculating on Gemini 1.5 and market dynamics for foundational models. 

(00:28:18) How long context windows change things

(00:30:57) - Sponsor: Netsuite | Omneky 

(00:41:06) - LLM Leaderboards 

(00:43:37) - Physics world modelling in OpenAI Sora

(00:57:25) - Object permanence in Sora

(01:04:40) - Experiments Zvi would run on Sora 

(01:06:21) - Superalignment and Anthropic Sleeper Agent

(01:10:47) - When do agents actually start to work? 

(01:16:00) - Raising the standard for AI app developers 

(01:22:07) - Dangers of open soure development 

(01:30:53) - The future of compact models 

(01:33:58) - Superalignment 

(01:53:00) - Meta

(01:54:20) - Mistral’s hold over the regulatory environment 

(02:04:16) - The Impact of Chip Bans on AI Development

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

Note: This conversation contains themes of suicidal ideation, in the context of academic research. Please watch from (21:41) onwards if you would like to skip past this content.

In this conversation, Nathan sits down with Eugenia Kuyda, Replika's Founder and CEO. They discuss recent research published in Nature conducted by Stanford on Replika user interactions, how Replika is providing their users with a relationship they can trust and confide in, what Eugenia has found surprising about the evolution of how people are interacting with their Replikas, and much more. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

LINKS

SPONSORS:

The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com

NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.

X/Social:

@ekuyda (Eugenia)

@labenz (Nathan)

@CogRev_Podcast 

Timestamps:

(00:00) Preview and summary

(06:41 The evolution of Replika

(08:11) Definining the main goal of Replika

(09:54) Nature published study by Stanford on Replika and mental health

(14:20) Methodology for the research on Replika users

(15:19) Sponsor - Brave Search API

(19:46) Replika providing people with a relationship they can trust and confide in

(23:20) How people are relating and reacting to their AI Replikas

(25:49) Stuffed animal analogy

(28:20) What people come to Replika for

(30:29) Sponsor - Netsuite | Omneky

(32:03) How malleable are people’s expectations for their Replika?

(36:54) The evolution of how people are interacting with Replika

(44:49) Putting Replika on device

(46:59) Underappreciated or developed aspects of AI development

(56:11) The relationship people have with their Replika is a moat

(1:08:46) Building AI to memorialize people after they passed: what are the ethics?

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

In this episode, a16z partners Justine Moore and Anish Acharya join Nathan to discuss the AI Abundance Agenda, their latest thesis for consumer AI. They discuss the intersection of weird and working, and their investment pillars in AI for creativity and productivity, companionship, and wellness and growth. Looking for a search API? Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

LINKS:

Read a16z’s AI Abundance Agenda here: https://gamma.app/docs/a16z-Consumer-Abundance-Agenda-ieotbnzbxj81biu?mode=doc

SUBREDDITS MENTIONED:

Justine's Deep Dive on AI Subreddits: https://twitter.com/venturetwins/status/1734614118294868115

r/LocalLLaMA: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/

r/ComfyUI: https://www.reddit.com/r/comfyui/

r/StableDiffusion: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/

r/aivideo: https://www.reddit.com/r/aivideo/

SPONSORS:

The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com

NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.

X/Social:

@labenz (Nathan)

@venturetwins (Justine)

@illscience (Anish)

@a16z 

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00) Intro and summary

(06:29) Introduction to the Abundance Agenda

(09:21) AI reducing administrative overhead

(09:40) Relationships and companionship

(10:30) Wellness and personal growth

(11:24 The intersection of weird and working: why weird sometimes works

(13:24) How AI helps the pro consumer

(15:17) Sponsor | Brave Search API

(20:47) Where do Justine and Anish discover new AI products

(23:25) The best AI subreddits

(27:16) High NPS churn vs Low NPS Churn

(28:30) AI Bundle: how it would work

(29:34) Sponsor | Netsuite + Omneky

(32:01) AI CMO or AI operated back office

(33:40) Best AI image to video products

(34:53) Why there aren’t currently APIs for AI video products

(39:12) AI email composition will be tackled by an incumbent rather than a startup

(39:47) The rise of voice-first due to AI

(40:40) Startups vs incumbents - 80:20 value capture for startups

(41:41) Salesforce vs a startup AI CRM

(45:07) Creating artistically opinionated models using fine tuning

(47:42) Why isn’t there a push for AI doctors?

(51:46) AI mental health apps

(55:00) Frameworks for designing non-predatory AI

(56:51) Proxy metric for evaluating companion AI products

(59:48) Media literacy and intuition for the next generation around AI

(1:00:20) Request for startups from Justine and Anish

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

In this episode, Dr Michael Levin, Distinguished Professor of Biology at Tufts University, joins Nathan to discuss embodied minds, his research into limb regeneration and collective intelligence, cognitive light cones, and much more. Michael and the Levin Lab work at the intersection of biology, artificial life, bioengineering, synthetic morphology, and cognitive science.

LINKS:

The Levin Lab and Dr. Michael Levin’s research: https://drmichaellevin.org/resources/

Dr Michael Levin’s blog: https://thoughtforms.life/about/

Tufts University Faculty Profile: https://as.tufts.edu/biology/people/faculty/michael-levin

Michael Levin @ Wyss Institute: https://wyss.harvard.edu/team/associate-faculty/michael-levin-ph-d/

Dr. Levin’s Research on Limb Regeneration: https://news.uchicago.edu/how-bioelectricity-could-regrow-limbs-and-organs

SPONSORS:

The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off www.omneky.com

NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you're looking for an ERP platform ✅ head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/cognitive and download your own customized KPI checklist.

X/SOCIAL

@labenz (Nathan)

@drmichaellevin (Michael)

@CogRev_Podcast

Timestamps:

(00:00) Preview

(01:07) Intro and summary

(05:40) Xenobots, anthrobots and the other creatures created by Mike Levin

(09:39) Bioelectric memory rewriting

(15:01) Sponsor | BraveSearch API

(16:09) The difficulty of conducting simulations, which involve running forward passes to predict and alter electrical patterns

(20:30) The concept of backpropagation and mode switching in AI models

(23:06) Why humans do not regenerate their limbs

(37:10) Sponsor | Netsuite

(39:40) Learning from small and biological systems onto the concept of possible emergence

(45:16) The criticality of multiple scale questions and would a single scale?

(55:49) The concept of the cognitive light cone

(59:43) Advice on habits of mind and suggestions for inspiration on the AI side

(1:13:36) Mike's suggested directions for the AI developers

(1:24:49) Wrap & Sponsor | Omneky

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

In this episode, Nathan sits down with Max Bennett, author of the book: A Brief History of Intelligence. They discuss the five major breakthroughs in evolution that resulted in human brains and cognition. They delve deeper into the workings of each breakthrough, the evolution of intelligence, and how AI can benefit from understanding these principles. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://shopify.com/cognitive for a $1/month trial period.

We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

LINKS:

A Brief History of Intelligence: https://a.co/d/6VPWTf7

SPONSORS:

The Brave search API can be used to assemble a data set to train your AI models and help with retrieval augmentation at the time of inference. All while remaining affordable with developer first pricing, integrating the Brave search API into your workflow translates to more ethical data sourcing and more human representative data sets. Try the Brave search API for free for up to 2000 queries per month at https://brave.com/api

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(06:00) Max's background on commercializing AI in technology

(09:53) AI has taught us a lot of our intuitions are wrong

(11:22) Why we're better off avoiding defining intelligence

(14:38) The Five Breakthrough Model - steering, reinforcing, simulating, mentalizing, and speaking

(15:43) Sponsor - Brave Search API | Shopify

(18:20) The story of the first breakthrough - Steering

(21:40) Evolution doesn't have forethought and every generation has to survive

(23:05) The study of nematodes - how did this first brain emerge?

(27:10) yet in bilaterians, but the idea is you classify things in the world into good and bad.

(33:00) Netsuite by Oracle | Omneky

(36:16) The story of the second breakthrough - Reinforcing

(1:32:44) The story of the fourth breakthrough - Mentalizing

(1:45:57) The story of the fourth breakthrough - Speaking (pls listen to the audio book / read the book)

(1:46:46) How evolutionary paradigms will shape up in the future

(1:55:03) A unified theory of value or moral patienthood that can be applied to the five breakthroughs

(1:59:21) Wrap + Sponsor | Omneky

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