"The Cognitive Revolution"

"The Cognitive Revolution"

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  • E31: Where are the Moats in AI? With Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg

    Nathan and Erik analyze the moats of the most powerful companies in AI. The paradigm-shifting technology has led to a flourishing open-source community with market share. Yet, the big players have key competitive advantages that can be examined from many different angles.


    LINKS:

    Nathan’s Twitter thread on AI moats that sparked this discussion: https://twitter.com/labenz/status/1654853321876815872

    Read about the 9 moats at length in our newsletter: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/p/the-leaked-google-memo-and-a

    Leaderboard for AI rankings: https://lmsys.org/

    --

    We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.


    RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

    The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.

    https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics


    TIMESTAMPS:

    (00:00) Episode Preview

    (01:36) Where are the moats in AI?

    (07:31) Open source vs. closed

    (15:24) Recommendation: The AI Breakdown Podcast

    (16:39) Sponsor: Omneky

    (20:46) AI Safety

    (33:00) Which players are going to win? 9 Moats.


    TWITTER:

    @CogRev_Podcast

    @labenz (Nathan)

    @eriktorenberg (Erik)


    SPONSORS:

    Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive


    Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.


    This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].


    Music Credit: MusicLM


    More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com

    1 hr 29 min
  • E30: The AI Revolution in Hollywood? With WGA writers Trey Kollmer, Sophia Lear, and Garrett Schabb

    Today’s episode is a deep dive into the collision of AI and the future of entertainment, against the backdrop of the still-raging Writers Guild of America (WGA) strike. Nathan Labenz sits down with Trey Kollmer, Sophia Lear, and Garrett Schabb – all seasoned television writers and Guild members – to discuss the labor dispute. While the strike encompasses many dynamics, the timely intersection with a rapidly changing AI landscape has the writers entwined in the wild possibilities and existential threats of paradigm-shifting technology. Other entertainment guilds and labor unions are watching closely.


    Note: Nathan kicks off this episode with a longer-than-usual introduction and analysis as the subject matter of this episode requires some added context. If you would prefer to dive straight into the interviews, follow the timecodes below to skip ahead (and maybe give the intro a listen when you finish!)


    More about our guests Trey Kollmer, Sophia Lear, and Garrett Schabb and their work:

    • Trey Kollmer, currently co-executive producer for the TV show Ghosts, was described to me as perhaps the single most knowledgeable guild member on the topic of AI. Follow him at @treyko on Twitter.
    • Sophia Lear has been a writer for TV shows including Ghosts, The Unicorn, and New Girl, and was also previously an assistant literary editor for the New Republic.
    • Garrett Schabb has written for shows including Tosh.0 and Suits (of Meghan Markle fame), and has also written for Crooked Media. Follow him at @garrettschabb

    • TIMESTAMPS:

      (00:00) Preview

      (01:54) Introduction and analysis for this episode 

      (09:02) Trey Kollmer breaks down the dynamics of compensation, ownership and crediting for WGA writers, issues at the heart of the strike

      (14:52) Sponsor: Omneky

      (15:09) Recommendation: The AI Breakdown

      (22:42) Usefulness of AI for script writing (and will better training out of jailbreaks make it less useful?) 

      (30:59) The main two AI-related demands of the labor dispute

      (42:48) Writers’ diverse reactions to AI, from hostility to experimentation

      (50:00) Picturing a long term Utopian future

      (57:46) Sophia Lear breaks down sentiments around GPT-4, AI-generated scripts and the previous eras of crappy sitcoms and bad streaming series (written by humans)

      (1:11:27) Whose jobs are safe?

      (1:17:03) Garrett Schabb breaks down dystopian/realistic view of studio’s incentives

      (1:20:33) How Garrett uses ChatGPT

      (1:27:37) Ethical boundaries of using the model to write like your favorite writers

      (1;32:16) The two types of storytelling in the future, UBI and decoupling writing from a profession


      SPONSORS:

      Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive


      Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.


      Music Credit: MusicLM

      More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com

      1 hr 43 min
    • E29: The AI Chip Revolution with Andrew Feldman of Cerebras

      Nathan Labenz sits down with Andrew Feldman, CEO and Co-Founder of Cerebras Systems, a company building a new class of computer system for accelerating AI and changing the future of work. Cerebras Systems is the creator of the world’s largest chip, at 2.6 trillion transistors. In this episode, they discuss the founding story of Cerebras, the experience of creating the world’s largest chip, and the process that goes into chip design and manufacturing for an AI-focused chip. 


      This episode is the first part of our hardware exploration series focused on the people building at the forefront of hardware applications in AI.


      LINKS:

      Cerebras: https://www.cerebras.net/

      Book: The Chip War by Chris Miller


      We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.


      PODCAST RECOMMENDATION:

      The AI Breakdown: https://pod.link/1680633614

      As anyone in AI knows, the pace of progress of new releases is relentless. The AI Breakdown is a daily podcast (10-20min long) that helps us ensure we don't miss anything important by curating news and analysis.


      TIMESTAMPS

      (00:00) Preview

      (04:27) Andrew’s story of creating the world’s largest chip and Cerebras

      (07:19) What is a chip?

      (08:14) The diversity of chips and what they can accomplish

      (09:47) What is it like to design a 2.5 trillion transistor chip?

      (12:41) The founding story of Cerebras and building the team

      (14:20) Sponsor: Omneky

      (23:00) What was the hardest part about building the company?

      (26:11) What happens after designing the chip’s blueprint?

      (27:29) The tradeoffs needed in chipmaking 

      (34:08) The comparison between chips and neural networks

      (38:31) The generalization vs specialization of a chip 

      (40:11) Sparse compute vs dense compute

      (43:55) Ghost in the machine

      (46:54) Supply chain challenges of the Cerebras chip

      (54:59) The future for chips

      (58:19) Building chip clusters

      (58:57) The Cerebras business model

      (01:00:41) Building a chip cluster vs using a Cerebras chip

      (01:02:57) Giant chips on the edge

      (01:05:32) What is the edge? 

      (01:08:04) Andrew’s favorite AI products

      (01:10:08) Would Andrew get a Neuralink implant?

      (01:14:16) Consciousness and chips

      (01:17:50) AI hopes and fears



      TWITTER:

      @CogRev_Podcast

      @andrewdfeldman (Andrew)

      @labenz (Nathan)

      @eriktorenberg (Erik)


      SPONSORS:

      Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive


      Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.


      This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

      Music Credit: MusicLM


      More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com

      1 hr 21 min
    • E28: Keeping the AI Revolution on the Rails with Shreya Rajpal of Guardrails AI

      Nathan Labenz sits down with engineer Shreya Rajpal, the creator of Guardrails AI, a new Python library that allows developers to add a layer of output, validation and correction to their code. Practically guardrails can ensure a reliable interface between language models and more traditional deterministic software systems. At the same time, mind-bending and potentially risky use case frameworks like Guardrails allow developers to ask and answer entirely new kinds of questions.


      Talking to Shreya really reinforced just how early we are in LLM’s impact on the software industry. We were introduced to Shreya’s work when recording our interview with Matt Welsh, the CEO of Fixie.AI (Ep 19: How AI Agents Will Change How We Work).


      LINKS:

      Guardrails AI: https://shreyar.github.io/guardrails/


      We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.


      TIMESTAMPS:

      (00:00) Episode preview

      (05:00) Why Shreya built Guardrails AI

      (08:33) Common ways LMs can “go off the rails” and how Guardrails can correct it

      (13:45) Discussion of validators

      (15:31) Sponsor: Omneky

      (18:48) Business and creative use cases of Guardrails AI

      (25:00) What can be achieved by Guardrails AI that cannot be achieved by traditional code

      (32:44) How agents work vs how Guardrails works

      (35:34) AI as shepherd vs delegating to AI and the role of human understanding

      (39:54) Trust deficit and risks

      (46:33) Is it realistic to imagine GPT-4 using Guardrails?

      (52:00) How Shreya thinks about security

      (57:02) How Shreya thinks about embeddings

      (1:05:05) How Shreya thinks about problemsolving with LMs

      (1:07:50) Shreya on OpenAI’s Evals Library, Anthropic’s Constitutional AI

      (1:12:55) Discussion of determinism

      (1:15:00) Recommendations for developers to minimize overhead

      (1:26:00) Predictions about providers in the space of LMs

      (1:29:30) Shreya’s favorite AI tools

      (1:30:00) Would Shreya get a neuralink implant

      (1:31:50) Biggest hopes and fears for AI


      TWITTER:

      @CogRev_Podcast

      @ShreyaR (Shreya)

      @labenz (Nathan)

      @eriktorenberg (Erik)


      SPONSORS:

      Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive


      Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.


      This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].


      Music Credit: MusicLM


      More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com

      1 hr 35 min
    • E27: “Google’s Med-PaLM and Med-PaLM2 with Vivek Natarajan”

      Nathan sits down with Vivek Natarajan, research scientist at Google Health. Vivek leads the Google Brain moonshot behind Med-PaLM, Google’s flagship medical large language model, featured in The Economist, The Scientific American, CNBC, and Forbes. In this episode, they discuss the foundational models that Vivek and team built before Med-PaLM, the techniques used to develop Med-PaLM which will be of interest to anyone developing AI systems for high-stakes use cases, and the capabilities for Med-PaLM to equalize access to medical knowledge and care.


      This episode is part of a series centered on talking to the people at the cutting edge of building AI-driven solutions in medicine.


      We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.


      LINKS:

      https://sites.research.google/med-palm/


      FEEDBACK / COLLABORATE WITH NATHAN:

      Email: [email protected]


      TIMESTAMPS:

      (00:00) Episode preview

      (03:43) The story of how Med-PaLM came to be

      (09:41) Building Med-PaLM’s infrastructure

      (13:10) The US medical licensing exam as a measure of AI progress

      (15:23) Sponsor: Omneky

      (18:17) Practicality of benchmarking in real-world usage

      (21:39) Overcoming the shortfalls of Flan-PaLM with Med-PaLM

      (25:08) Choosing to use soft prompting over few shot prompting

      (30:36) The process of training Flan-PaLM

      (37:31) A curriculum approach to soft-prompting

      (38:43) Layperson vs expert interactions with LLMs

      (43:54) How did the Google team facilitate user exploration of the model’s capabilities?

      (46:58) Shift in techniques from Med-PaLM to Med-PaLM2

      (50:21) Using different prompting strategies with Med-PaLM2

      (57:33) Is Med-PaLM 2 preferred over clinicians?

      (01:02:28) Will there be a multimodal version of Med-PaLM?

      (01:04:52) Breakthroughs required for AI to further advance human potential

      (01:10:23) The Med-PaLM business plan

      (01:12:08) Is there a vision for a consumer product?

      (01:15:46) The pros and cons of pre-training a model

      (01:19:45) Vivek’s favorite AI products

      (01:21:01) Would Vivek get a Neuralink implant?

      (01:23:08) AI hopes and fears


      TWITTER:

      @CogRev_Podcast

      @vivnat (Vivek)

      @labenz (Nathan)

      @eriktorenberg (Erik)


      SPONSORS:

      Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive


      Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.


      This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].


      Music Credit: MusicLM


      More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/

      1 hr 27 min
    • E26: [Bonus Episode] Connor Leahy on AGI, GPT-4, and Cognitive Emulation w/ FLI Podcast

      [Bonus Episode] Future of Life Institute Podcast host Gus Docker interviews Conjecture CEO Connor Leahy to discuss GPT-4, magic, cognitive emulation, demand for human-like AI, and aligning superintelligence. You can read more about Connor's work at https://conjecture.dev

      Future of Life Institute is the organization that recently published an open letter calling for a six-month pause on training new AI systems. FLI was founded by Jann Tallinn who we interviewed in Episode 16 of The Cognitive Revolution.

      We think their podcast is excellent. They frequently interview critical thinkers in AI like Neel Nanda, Ajeya Cotra, and Connor Leahy - an episode we found particularly fascinating and is airing for our audience today.


      The FLI Podcast also recently interviewed Nathan Labenz for a 2-part episode:

      https://futureoflife.org/podcast/nathan-labenz-on-how-ai-will-transform-the-economy/


      SUBSCRIBE: Future of Life Institute Podcast:

      Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/future-of-life-institute-podcast/id1170991978

      Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2Op1WO3gwVwCrYHg4eoGyP

      --

      We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.


      RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

      The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.

      https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics


      TIMESTAMPS:

      (00:00) Episode introduction

      (01:55) GPT-4 

      (18:30) "Magic" in machine learning 

      (29:43) Cognitive emulations 

      (40:00) Machine learning VS explainability 

      (49:50) Human data = human AI? 

      (1:01:50) Analogies for cognitive emulations 

      (1:28:10) Demand for human-like AI 

      (1:33:50) Aligning superintelligence 


      SPONSORS:

      Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive


      This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].


      If you'd like to listen to Part 2 of this interview with Connor Leahy, you can head here: 

      https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/connor-leahy-on-the-state-of-ai-and-alignment-research/id1170991978?i=1000609972001

      1 hr 42 min
    • E25: Revolutionizing Patient Care with Neal Khosla of Curai Health

      Nathan and Erik sit down with Neal Khosla, founder of Curai Health, a venture-backed virtual care startup using AI to provide low-cost primary healthcare. Prior to his current role at Curai, Neal was a machine learning researcher at Google and Stanford. In this episode, they discuss the current state of AI in medicine, what the future patient experience may look like, and how developments in AI healthcare may interact with different regulatory and social forces across the globe. 


      We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.


      RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

      The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.

      https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics


      FEEDBACK 

      We'd love to hear your feedback or answer any listener questions live on an upcoming episode. DM @labenz on Twitter or email us at [email protected] with "TCR" in the subject line.

      We'd appreciate it immensely if you left us a review on Apple Podcasts or a rating on Spotify!


      TIMESTAMPS

      (00:00) Preview

      (04:32) The future of AI in medicine

      (12:50) Patient experience in AI-driven medicine and the current state of AI in medicine

      (15:04) Sponsor: Omneky

      (20:34) Building the LLM architecture for medicine

      (25:25) Current state of the art for AI in medicine

      (28:54) Evaluating LLM performance in medicine

      (31:49) Benchmarking LLMs in medicine

      (39:17) Using the Socratic method in training LLMs

      (43:57) Multimodal systems and deploying multiple models in medicine 

      (51:30) The future of LLM creation and usage

      (59:47) The interaction of AI medicine with social and regulatory forces

      (01:11:00) AI adoption in countries with centralized healthcare systems

      (01:13:37) How should we regulate the usage of AI in medicine?

      (01:16:57) AI-first systems in medicine

      (01:18:19) Is there an obligation to deploy AI in medicine in its current state?

      (01:20:48) Neal’s favorite AI products

      (01:22:21) Would Neal get a Neuralink implant?

      (01:24:54) AI hopes and fears


      TWITTER:

      @CogRev_Podcast

      @nealkhosla (Neal)

      @labenz (Nathan)


      SPONSORS:

      Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive


      Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.


      More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com

      1 hr 30 min
    • E24: The AI Revolution in Medicine with Dr. Isaac Kohane of Harvard Medical School

      Nathan sits down with Professor Zak Kohane, the Chair of the Department of Biomedical Informatics at Harvard Medical School, and co-author of the new book, The AI Revolution in Medicine, for which Sam Altman, OpenAI’s CEO wrote the foreword to the book.

      Professor Kohane was among a select few people to receive early preview and research access to GPT-4 in the fall of 2022, and his approach to exploring and characterizing how AI is about to transform medicine. 

      The book is out May 13, 2023 and can be ordered here (or on Amazon by searching for "The AI Revolution in Medicine")


      Regardless of the field you're in, Dr. Kohane's combination of deep immersion, enthusiastic exploration, pragmatic optimism, risk awareness, realism, and forward-thinking vision make this a worthy example for others to study and emulate.

      --

      We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.


      RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

      The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.

      https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics


      TIMESTAMPS:

      (00:00) Episode preview

      (05:29) Dr. Isaac Kohane’s story

      (15:00) Sponsor: Omneky

      (16:29) Advice to others thinking of applying AI to their own disciplines

      (20:33) The tension of using AI in medicine

      (25:04) The Trial Paradigm of AI

       (31:15) Is it possible to use GPT as a healthcare provider in population studies?

      (34:14) The Trainee Paradigm of AI

      (36:09) The Partner Paradigm of AI and how doctors should use AI

      (40:33) AI provided interaction and how that can improve patient care

      (42:26) The Torchbearer Paradigm of AI

      (42:59) Can GPT independently conduct medical research?

      (46:58) The future for impactful use cases of AI in medicine

      (51:04) Integrating AlphaFold into language models

      (54:10) AI-alignment and patient data in medicine


      TWITTER:

      @CogRev_Podcast

      @labenz (Nathan)

      @zakkohane (Isaac)

      @eriktorenberg (Erik)


      SPONSORS:

      Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive


      Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.


      More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: cognitiverevolution.substack.com

      1 hr
    • E23: Scouting the AI Revolution with Robert Scoble and "Ben's Bites" creator Ben Tossell

      Nathan Labenz sits down with prominent – and notably prescient – AI media figures Robert Scoble and Ben Tossell. They discuss what the work of being an AI scout looks like, how to bring the mainstream along with emerging AI developments, and their predictions and hopes for AI.

      Robert Scoble is a long-time Silicon Valley technology explorer and connector, a futurist who's met so many technology legends in their primes that he's now also something of a historian. https://scobleizer.blog/

      Ben Tossell is the creator of Ben's Bites, an AI round up newsletter meant to be read in 5 minutes or less, read by over 90,000 subscribers. https://www.bensbites.co/

      This episode caps off our series centered on talking to rising voices in AI media: people who are now only working overtime to understand everything going on in AI, but also creating thought leadership and educational content meant to help others get up to speed as well.

      --

      We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.


      RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

      The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.

      https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics


      BOOK RECOMMENDATION:

      The Scout Mindset from author Julia Galef


      TWITTER:

      @CogRev_Podcast

      @labenz (Nathan)

      @eriktorenberg (Erik)

      @Scobleizer (Robert)

      @bentossell (Ben


      SPONSORS:

      Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive


      Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.


      This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].


      More original content from Nathan is published in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/

      1 hr 3 min
    • E22: Helping Businesses Use AI with Rachel Woods of The AI Exchange

      Nathan Labenz sits down with Rachel Woods, founder of The AI Exchange, an AI education platform with over 130,000 subscribers on TikTok. They discuss Rachel’s experience consulting for public and private companies on AI strategy, how teams should think about their AI strategy, and how Rachel uses AI in her own business. Rachel was previously a data scientist at Meta, and a founder of a venture-backed e-commerce startup, where she began to use chatGPT in her startup operations.

      This episode is the second in a series centered on talking to rising voices in AI media: people who are now only working overtime to understand everything going on in AI, but also creating thought leadership and educational content meant to help others get up to speed as well.

      --

      We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.


      RECOMMENDED PODCAST:

      The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.

      https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics


      TIMESTAMPS:

      (00:00) Episode preview

      (02:59) Rachel Woods’ story

      (04:30) State of the public who comes across videos

      (9:49): How do you frame AI to business owners and how should they use it?

      (15:29) Sponsor: Omneky

      (18:58) How should teams set up their AI strategy for success?

      (26:41) The leap from GPT 3.5 to GPT-4

      (30:42) Step changes of AI and public perception of capabilities

      (35:17) Common misconceptions people have about AI

      (36:22) How Rachel uses AI in her business

      (44:09) What’s your style of prompt engineering for content creation?

      (46:01) How AI will change the way we use a computer in the next year?

      (49:34) Bing launch and how companies launch AI products

      (54:15) AI safety and restraint

      (1:00:11) Alpaca and LLaMA

      (1:04:16) Rachel’s favorite products in AI

      (1:05:24) Would Rachel get a Neuralink implant?

      (1:07:55) AI hopes and fears


      TWITTER:

      @CogRev_Podcast

      @labenz (Nathan)

      @eriktorenberg (Erik)

      @rachel_l_woods (Rachel)


      SPONSORS:

      Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive


      Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.

      More show notes and reading material released in our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/

      1 hr 12 min

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    A biweekly podcast where hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg interview the builders on the edge of AI and explore the dramatic shift it will unlock in the coming years.

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