"The Cognitive Revolution"

In this episode, hosts Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg delve into the exciting and concerning aspects of GPT4, the latest large multimodal model from OpenAI. Nathan, who was a Red Teamer for GPT4, shares his experience working with the model, using it for real-life scenarios, and how he found it to be human-level rather than human-like intelligence. Nathan also highlights some of its fundamental weaknesses and limitations and shares the most concerning elements of GPT4. They end the episode pondering the arrival of GPT5 and whether we are in AI's "goldilocks moment."

We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

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The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.

https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics

Timestamps for E11: Nathan Labenz and Erik Torenberg of The Cognitive Revolution Podcast

(0:00) Preview of Nathan on this episode

(1:13) Upstream: Erik's new interview show

(1:41) Intro

(5:40) Nathan's experience as a GPT4 Red Teamer

(11:22) Catching the AI wave

(14:30) Using GPT4 for real-life scenarios

(17:33) Sponsor: Omneky

(21:00) Human-level, not human-like intelligence

(26:00) GPT4 weaknesses

(28:14) More real-life use cases for GPT4

(35:25) Teaching AI to communicate within itself

(40:25) GPT4’s limitations

(44:32) Nathan's learnings from using GPT4

(46:56) Nathan joining the Red Team

(47:29) The most concerning thing about GPT4

(1:05:42) GPT5

(1:06:42) Open AI's regulatory breadcrumbs

(1:13:52) AI's goldilocks moment

SPONSORS:

Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive

Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.

Twitter:

@CogRev_Podcast

@labenz (Nathan)

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

Join 1000's of subscribers of our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

The development of ultra-realistic human voices is upon us, and Mahmoud Felfel's company Play.ht is leading the next generation of text-to-voice models. In this episode, we discuss the challenges and opportunities of automating a more human voice, as well as concerns about deep fakes and user safety.

We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

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The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.

https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics

Timestamps:

(0:00) Preview of Mahmoud on this episode 

(0:55) Sponsor: Omneky.com 

(1:45) Nathan clones his voice using Play.ht 

(6:11) Why Mahmoud started Play.ht and the problem they tried to solve

(13:08) The job to be done for Play.ht & how they’re thinking about APIs and models

(24:45) Mahmoud breaks down the architecture of Play.ht

(29:30) How the use cases have evolved 

(30:00) New markets and opportunities with creators

(37:00) Are we all about to become prompt engineers/directors?

(44:50) Roadmap to other languages beyond English

(48:00) Managing the compute(52:00) If AI-generated voices becomes a commodity, what will happen?

(55:00) Why bigger companies are late adopters of AI tools

(56:30) The long-term moat of Play.ht and other applications

(1:00:00) Controversial voice-cloning and potential for societal abuse

(1:10:32) Commonly abused voices

(1:12:36) Rapid fire questions

SPONSORS: SHOPIFY | OMNEKY

Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive

*Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.*

Twitter:

@CogRev_Podcast

@_mfelfel (Mahmoud)

@labenz (Nathan)

Join 1000's of subscribers of our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack

Websites:

cognitivervolution.ai

play.ht

omneky.com

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

People have long been imagining AI assistants. Flo Crivello (founder of Teamflow) is turning that dream into a reality with the ambitious project Lindy. Flo sits down with Nathan on Lindy's announcement day to talk about this unique moment in AI, Lindy's capabilities, single-use apps, and how he sees the global impact that AI-powered employees can have on the future of work.

We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

 Anyone who mentions "The Cognitive Revolution" when signing up for the Lindy beta will get priority access. 

(0:00) Preview 

(1:05) Sponsor: Omneky 

(4:50) Flo demos Lindy

(9:21) Security and user experience 

(11:55) How this AI moment compares to the Industrial Revolution and single use apps 

(15:00) The dream AI assistant (19:54) Competition and advantages of startups 

(24:28) Cost vs Quality 

(31:19) How Lindy uses user data 

(32:37) Context and data injection 

(28:11) Comfort with ambiguity 

(43:10) Use of guardrails and trust concerns 

(47:26) AI safety and edge cases 

(49:16) Impact on labor markets 

(50:27) Economic resilience 

(52:09) Future of work 

(55:49) Rapid fire questions 

SPONSORS: SHOPIFY | OMNEKY

Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive

*Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off. 

Join 1000's of subscribers of our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack 

Websites: 

lindy.ai *mention "The Cognitive Revolution" when you sign up for the waitlist to get priority access* 

thecognitiverevolution.ai 

Twitter: 

@CogRev_Podcast 

@labenz (Nathan) 

@Altimor (Flo)

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https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

How will GPT4 change the world? How will US-China 'racing dynamics' play out and what are the implications for AI safety? Nathan Labenz was invited to record a special "emergency" episode of ChinaTalk podcast this week to discuss the implications GPT4 will have for policy, economics, and society. Thanks to Jordan Schneider of ChinaTalk, and fellow "AI justice league" guests Zvi Mowshowitz of 'Don't Worry About the Vase' and Matthew Mittelsteadt of Mercatus. 

We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

(0:00) Intro

(2:09) GPT-4 emergency podcast

(9:26) GPT-4 use cases

(22:51) What GPT-4 can and can’t do

(35:50) AI safety

(45:38) OpenAI v. Anthropic 

(48:54) Governments’ role in AI

(55:50) AI will improve physical health and healthcare the most

(59:19) Facebook’s LLaMA model

(01:05:55) VR/AR

(01:08:59) Concerns with GPT4

(01:15:26) GPT-5 and GPT-6

(01:18:45) Optimism in the AI revolution

SPONSOR: SHOPIFY | OMNEKY

Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive

Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real time advertising data, to generate personalized experiences at scale.

Twitter:

@CogRev_Podcast

@labenz (Nathan)

@jordanschnyc (Jordan)

 Websites:

cognitivervolution.ai

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The HR industry is at a crossroads. What will it take to construct the next generation of incredible businesses – and where can people leaders have the most business impact? Hosts Nolan Church and Kelli Dragovich have been through it all, the highs and the lows – IPOs, layoffs, executive turnover, board meetings, culture changes, and more. With a lineup of industry vets and experts, Nolan and Kelli break down the nitty-gritty details, trade offs, and dynamics of constructing high performing companies. Through unfiltered conversations that can only happen between seasoned practitioners, Kelli and Nolan dive deep into the kind of leadership-level strategy that often happens behind closed doors. Check out the first episode with the architect of Netflix’s culture deck Patty McCord.

https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

We talked to Aravind Srinivas about competing with the tech giants, Perplexity's product philosophy and obsession with maximizing value delivered to the user per unit time, and the features that makes Perplexity unique.

We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

(0:00) Preview

(1:31) Introduction & Context

(08:06) Aravind’s vision for Perplexity as the world’s most truth-centric company

(9:29) Raising the average IQ of the world

(12:00) Aravind’s favorite tech entrepreneur

(15:12) “Anthropics” - Building your own model vs user experience

(33:00) Why is perplexity free

(43:00) Talking shop: Perplexity’s tech stack and speed

(1:06:00) Perplexity’s stance on guardrails on search

(1:19:48) Forecasting weakly general AGI: The four criteria

(1:28:00) Aravind’s perspective on OpenAI and the future of AGI

(1:39:00) The Cognitive Revolution’s rapid fire questions: Neuralink implant? Most used AI tools? AI hopes and fears?

Twitter handles:

@CogRev_Podcast

@AravSrinivas (Aravind)

@labenz (Nathan)

@eriktorenberg (Erik) 

SPONSOR: SHOPIFY:

Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive

Join 1000's of subscribers of our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/ 

References & Shownotes:

Flamingo: https://www.deepmind.com/blog/tackling-multiple-tasks-with-a-single-visual-language-model

Decision Transformer Paper: https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.01345

Aravind on TalkRL Podcast: https://www.talkrl.com/episodes/aravind-srinivas-2

Weakly General AGI Criteria: https://www.metaculus.com/questions/3479/date-weakly-general-ai-is-publicly-known/

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https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

As recently as January 2021, the challenge of "interpreting what is going on in a photograph" was considered "nowhere near solved." Today's guests Junnan Li and Dongxu Li changed that with their publication and open-sourcing of BLIP, which delivered state-of-the-art performance on image captioning and other vision-language tasks.

BLIP became the #18 most-cited AI paper of 2022, and now Junnan and Dongxu are back with BLIP-2, this time showing how small models can harness the power of existing foundation models to do multi-modal tasks.

We talked to Junnan and Dongxu about their research and how they see the trend toward connector models shaping the future.

We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

Timestamps:

(00:00) Preview

(01:17) Sponsor

(01:35) Intro

(05:50) Convergence of AI techniques

(07:33) Evolution of BLIP to BLIP-2

(08:12) How BLIP-2 unlocked multimodal functionality

(12:43) The size, training dynamics, and optimization function of BLIP

(20:15) Practical/Business applications of BLIP

(29:43) Efficiency of BLIP-2 compared to other models

(41:52) Two-stage pre-training

(47:11) Architecture of Blip-2’s connector model

(58:52) Language models as the executive function of the brain

(01:07:32) Vision for an ultimate multimodal system and democratized pre-training for models

(01:12:59) Useful AI tools in these researchers’ day-to-day

(01:14:56) Upcoming projects

SPONSORS: SHOPIFY | OMNEKY

Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive

*Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.

Twitter:

@CogRev_Podcast

@LiJunnan0409 (Junnan Li)

@DongxuLi_(Dongxu Li)

@labenz (Nathan)

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

Join 1000's of subscribers of our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com

Websites:

Episode transcript at Cognitivervolution.ai

huggingface.co/spaces/Salesforce/BLIP

huggingface.co/spaces/Salesforce/BLIP2

Show Notes:

- Original BLIP demo

- BLIP 2 demo

- BLIP is the #18 most highly-cited paper in AI

- Image captioning comparison tool

- Understanding images with AI - for use in language models and image generation

- Image Aesthetics - Product & Model Reviews

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

(0:00) Preview

(1:17) Sponsor 

(4:00) Anton breaks down the advantages of vector databases

(4:45) How embeddings have created an AI-native way to represent data

(11:50) Anton identifies the watershed moment and step changes in AI

(12:55) Open AI’s pricing

(18:50) How chroma works

(33:04) Stable Attribution and systematic bias

(36:48) How latent diffusion models work

(51:26) How AI is like the early days of aviation

(56:01) How Disney inspired the release of Stable Attribution

(59:53):Why noise can lead to generalization

(1:01:04) Nathan’s KPI for The Cognitive Revolution

(1:01:59) Other use cases for embedding

(1:03: 19) Anton touches on the applications for biotech

(1:04:35) Anton on doomerism hysteria and what actually worries him

(1:11:43) - Nathan sums up a plausible doomer scenario

(1:20:17)What AI tools does Anton use and why?

(1:22:55) Anton’s hopes

SPONSORS: SHOPIFY | OMNEKY

Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive

*Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data. Mention "Cog Rev" for 10% off.

Twitter:

@CogRev_Podcast

@atroyn (Anton)

@labenz (Nathan)

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

Join 1000's of subscribers of our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/

Websites:

cognitivervolution.ai

trychroma.com/

omneky.com

Show Notes & references:

-https://same.energy/ (Beta)

-Wright Brothers Bio (https://www.amazon.com/Wright-Brothers-David-McCullough/dp/1476728755)

-Ajeya Cotra article in Less Wrong (https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/pRkFkzwKZ2zfa3R6H/without-specific-countermeasures-the-easiest-path-to)

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https://link.chtbl.com/hrheretics

This show is produced by Turpentine: a network of podcasts, newsletters, and more, covering technology, business, and culture — all from the perspective of industry insiders and experts. We’re launching new shows every week, and we’re looking for industry-leading sponsors — if you think that might be you and your company, email us at [email protected].

We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

(0:00) Preview of the debate

(2:23) Sponsor

(3:10) Flo’s take on the AI moment and AGI

(5:45) Amjad’s take on the AI moment

(8:03) Antonio's skepticism about transhumanism

(9:10) Human tendencies color the debate about agency

(11:25) The inflection point is a jump in generality

(13:14) AI's effect on coding

(16:57) Weakness in current models

(19:18) Bounties and the future of work

(21:48) Antonio's skepticism around bounties

(25:00) Who will capture value, incumbents or startups?

(27:26) "All knowledge work will be automated in 20 years"

(30:10) Who will be the biggest beneficiaries of this shift?

(31:50) What AI companies should VCs invest in?

(32:26) Sponsor

SPONSORS: SHOPIFY | OMNEKY

Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you sell at every stage of your business. Shopify powers 10% of ALL eCommerce in the US. And Shopify's the global force behind Allbirds, Rothy's, and Brooklinen, and 1,000,000s of other entrepreneurs across 175 countries.From their all-in-one e-commerce platform, to their in-person POS system – wherever and whatever you're selling, Shopify's got you covered. With free Shopify Magic, sell more with less effort by whipping up captivating content that converts – from blog posts to product descriptions using AI. Sign up for $1/month trial period: https://shopify.com/cognitive

Thank you Omneky for sponsoring The Cognitive Revolution. Omneky is an omnichannel creative generation platform that lets you launch hundreds of thousands of ad iterations that actually work, customized across all platforms, with a click of a button. Omneky combines generative AI and real-time advertising data, to generate personalized experiences at scale. 

Twitter:

@CogRev_Podcast

@amasad (Amjad)

@antoniogm (Antonio)

@altimor (Flo)

@dwr (Dan)

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

@labenz (Nathan)

Subscribe to our Substack: https://cognitiverevolution.substack.com/

Websites:

cognitivervolution.ai

replit.com

teamflowhq.com

omneky.com

Show Notes & references:

Eliezer Yudkowsky: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/FKNtgZrGYwgsz3nHT/bankless-podcast-159-we-re-all-gonna-die-with-eliezer

Paul Christiano: https://paulfchristiano.com/

AI Feedback: https://www.anthropic.com/constitutional.pdf

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We're hiring across the board at Turpentine and for Erik's personal team on other projects he's incubating. He's hiring a Chief of Staff, EA, Head of Special Projects, Investment Associate, and more. For a list of JDs, check out: eriktorenberg.com.

(01:08) Sponsor

(01:37) Introducing Eugenia 

(03:25) Replika’s controversial choice to limit erotic roleplay functionality

(04:25) Eugenia's vision for Replika

(05:58) Augmented Reality is the Ultimate Modality

(07:52) Using Replika

(13:11) Profound stories about virtual assistants

(15:55) Eugenia on why Replika is more than just a painkiller or vitamin

(28:50) Replika's business model and profitability

(34:12) Users want their Replika to surprise them

(36:12) Why ChatGPT is not a conversational model

(49:26) Eugenia's prediction for the "next Iphone of personal AI"

(1:03:00) Eugenia’s AI tools/stack  

(1:15:00) Eugenia comes back to discuss Erotic Roleplay controversy 

(1:18:00) Replika’s first reaction to users ERP

(1: 22:00) How the product evolved from 90% scripts & retrieval models

(1:24:00) The definitive focus for Replika to stay in a PG13 zone

(1:26:00) “Normal” evolution given sci-fi depictions of AI romances

(1:30:00) Current AI ethics on sexuality

(1:37:07) Response to journalists misportrayal

(1:40:29) Sponsor

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Twitter:

@CogRev_Podcast

@eriktorenberg (Erik)

@labenz (Nathan)

@ekuyda (Eugenia)

Websites:

cognitivervolution.ai

https://replika.ai/

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@labenz (Nathan)

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waymark.com

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