Irregular Warfare Podcast

The Costs and Benefits of Unconventional Warfare and Subversion


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What are unconventional warfare and foreign subversion? Will they be important in an era of great power competition? What are some of the second- and third-order effects when states use subversion to undermine their rivals? Retired Lt. Gen. Ken Tovo and Dr. Melissa Lee join the Irregular Warfare Podcast to discuss these topics and more.

Intro music: "Unsilenced" by Ketsa

Outro music: "Launch" by Ketsa

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