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“The Counterintelligence Chief” – with FBI Assistant Director Alan Kohler


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Summary

Alan Kohler joins Andrew to discuss the FBI’s counterintelligence division. He is a recipient of the FBI Director’s Award for Outstanding Counterintelligence Investigation. 

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What You’ll LearnIntelligence

  • Counterintelligence vs. Counterespionage

  • How the FBI recruit’s foreign agents 

  • Ideological motivations behind spying

  • Effect of technology on counterintelligence

  • Reflections

    • Staying grounded under pressure 

    • The value of creativity


    • Notes

      Alan Kohler (LinkedIn, Website) has been the FBI Assistant Director for Counterintelligence since 2020. Alan and Andrew (TwitterLinkedIn) talk all things counterintelligence.


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      • The FBI Way with Counterintelligence Spy Chief Frank Figliuzzi (2021)


      • ***FULL RESOURCES AVAILABLE HERE***


        *Beginner Resources*


        • What We Investigate, FBI (n.d.) [webpage]


        • FAQ’S, FBI (n.d.) [webpage]


        • US Opens Counterintelligence Investigation into China Every 12 Hours (Dir. Wray), MSNBC (2022) [video]


        • What We Know About China’s Spy Agency, Bloomberg Originals (2019) [video]


        • Hollow Nickel/Rudolf Abel, FBI (n.d.) [Article]


        • NCSC Mission, Vision, and Goals, ODNI (n.d.) [Website]


        • Glossary: 


          • Counterintelligence: Information gathered, and activities conducted to identify, deceive, exploit, disrupt, or protect against espionage or other intelligence activities


          • FBI Attaché: a special agent assigned to a U.S. embassy or consulate overseas to liaise with local law enforcement and intelligence agencies. They pursue terrorist, intelligence, and criminal threats with international dimensions. 


          • Occam’s Razor: a rule of thumb theory that states when you are faced with competing explanations for the same phenomenon, the simplest one is probably the correct one. Attributed to William of Ockham, a 14th century English theologian. 


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