Has Christmas always been wholesome? What did Halloween steal from Christmas? And what happens when you bump into a Krampus?

Join us for a special interview episode, where we talk to Sarah Clegg, author of "The Dead of Winter: The Demons, Witches and Ghosts of Christmas".

We discuss her run-ins with Christmas monsters, learn about the surprisingly unruly history of Christmas celebrations, and hear why Jacob Grimm may have a lot to answer for...

From wassailing to ghostly walks, this is Christmas in a whole new light.

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Theme music: Bicycle Waltz by Goodbye Kumiko

Other Music: Tchaikovsky's Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy