As the President of Estonia, Toomas Hendrik Ilves witnessed firsthand a devastating cyberattack — a series of 2007 attacks that comprise one of the largest instances of state-sponsored cyberwarfare in the modern era. Now a distinguished visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution, he talks here with Herbert Lin, a senior research scholar for cyber policy and security at the Center for International Security and Cooperation. They discuss how ubiquitous information technology has become in our everyday lives and what that means for our security. They answer questions about the tradeoff between privacy and safety and ultimately urge for a change in mindset with our approach to cyber issues.

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