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On today’s show: former One Direction star Liam Payne has died, so how do we make sense of his death as both a beloved teen idol as well as a man accused of inflicting pain on women? And then, the Victoria’s Secret fashion show is back! So what did we make of the spectacle?

This week, Zara recommended Sunday Sports Club with Alison Kuch. Mich recommended Mr Big from ABC Podcasts: new Unravelled series.

This episode was audio produced by Eilish Gilligan.

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