On this episode of #TheDojo, we are joined by friend of the show Pam Tjelele, we kick things off with a conversation around parenting and the balancing act of raising kids within the privileges their parents can afford while keeping them grounded and trying to instill Ubuntu. We segue into a conversation around the dynamic, a lot of black folk deal with, of balancing their modern urban lives with the rules and set ways of their rural upbringing. We ask Pam the question "Do modern women look down at women who use sex to upscale or better lives or circumstances", which then leads to us pondering on the notion of sex work being work. We chew over how the middle and upper classes debate issues and the arrogance of thinking one knows better than another. We debate whether size matters, which leads to a greater conversation about sexual chemistry and compatibility. We look at how cheating flares up insecurity in people. We round off the Pod with Pam letting us in on the difficulty of balancing her spirituality and the elements and changes it comes with and her day to day life as she has known it.